Freeze 12 A/C recharge kit \ A/C question

[fahrvergnugen at cox.net (David Utley)]

Ah, Freeze 12 is 70-90% R134, and therefore damn near just as bad as R134.
Look up the MSDS for both R134, and Freeze 12.  Tetrafluoroethane is -the-
ingredient for R134, so Freeze 12 is just as bad...

Might I suggest DuraCool?  http://accesscnc.com/BasicQuest.html

Have a read.  Apparently, the lobbyists in some states have outlawed the use
of this stuff, positing it is dangerous.  If 20 oz of hydrocarbons in the AC
system is dangerous, perhaps we should outlaw carrying more than a gallow of
gasoline?!  [/rant]

Anyways, I believe this stuff to be superior to anything else available,
even R12.  If you were to fill an originally R134 system, you would only
need 85% Duracool for the amount of R134.

Sorry, I can't remember if I recommended Freeze 12 in the first place, I
have just been reminded why it is a bad choice.  Sorry for the confusion if
any.

David

-----Original Message-----
From: David Utley [mailto:fahrvergnugen@xxxxxxx] 
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 9:39 PM
To: 'Brian Haygood'; 'Nate Mellom'
Cc: 'Scirocco list'
Subject: RE: Freeze 12 A/C recharge kit \ A/C question

Mechanic friend said Freeze 12 is bad news, but I can't recall why.  His
cell phone is down, so give me some time to get the answer for you...

David

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Haygood [mailto:brianhaygood@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 5:12 PM
To: Nate Mellom
Cc: Scirocco list
Subject: Re: Freeze 12 A/C recharge kit \ A/C question

Where can you get the Freeze 12 stuff?  R-134a stuff was easy, but the R-12
replacement stuff is supposed to cool better, so I was going to try it.

On 7/3/07, Nate Mellom <doubt@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Anyone ever use the Freeze 12 kit?  Looks like it's a direct replacement
> for R12 (not an R132A conversion), and kits look to be reasonable.  I'd
> like to get the A/C working on my '88, and I don't really want to put a
> lot into an R132A conversion.
>
> Speaking of, I'm looking to do a R132A recharge on a couple cars in the
> driveway, I've been doing some research, looks to be pretty simple and
> idiot-proof.  I'd get a complete kit, with guage, refrigerant, etc.
> Looking for any BTDTs for reference.
>
> Thanks,
> Nate
>
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