G60 Valve Cover now rotorcharger

[nocones77-vw at yahoo.com (nocones77-vw@yahoo.com)]

> Peter Knows his stuff when it comes to the lysholm and CIS

Yeah, Peter certainly does know CIS well. I'm still wondering *why* anyone would want to go to the trouble he has with CIS, but everyone has to have a hobby, I suppose! :-P (I've been giving him a hard time about that for years)

I absolutely LOVE the Rotorcharged setup. The car is insane. I've got a ton of other work done to my engine, so don't think that the supercharger alone will give you 235whp on an 8v. But still, a 50% power increase (140whp+) shouldn't be too hard at all on an otherwise stock 8:1 8v if you do it right. And the torque is awesome. You could build a turbo kit that makes more power for less money, but the Lysholm produces much more *usable* power than any turbo 8v setup I've driven. Even those that had significantly more power at peak. 

It isn't a "bolt on" though. The physical compressor comes supplied with everything to bolt it on, but Peter doesn't supply intake/intercooler plumbing or engine management, so you're on your own there. There's also a few other bits you'll need to source like an alternator from an ABA. If you want power steering, you also have to get all the brackets and pump from an ABA, too. And there's simply no way to run A/C at all. You also need to put a small notch in the hood reinforcement to clear the charger on a Scirocco, since it was originally designed on a Rabbit.

He was talking about making a air/water kit based upon my setup, but I don't know where that project is currently. Last I heard he was nearing completion of the setup on his own car. My setup isn't the cheapest, but if I may say so, it is a very elegant, compact, efficient, and easy-to-fit design for any A1. With the exception of the Mk2 Scirocco that has extra room in the nose, A1's just aren't designed to accomodate a good air/air intercooler and plumbing.

If you're going to keep boost low (or if you are masochistic like Peter), he can give you advice for modifying CIS. I would absolutely recommend converting to either Digifant 1 (Corrado G60) with a chip from SNS Tuning like I have, or go with another standalone like Megasquirt, SDS, etc. Can't beat EFI when it comes to frankenstein engines with forced induction.

Not sure what Peter's current price is on the kits, but he'll tell you if you ask. It isn't cheap though...

Feel free to ask questions on the rotorcharged.com forums. Peter is really cool, and gets back quickly.

The car is now semi-retired from racing, but I love it too much to give
up, so it'll probably be turned into a street/track-day car...possibly
contemplating a new shell due to the fender flares. Unfortunately you just can't get 225/45-13 street tires!

Neal

----- Original Message ----
From: Verboten1 <verboten1@gmail.com>
To: Mtl-Marc <marc_scirocco@sympatico.ca>
Cc: nocones77-vw@yahoo.com; area53@validpath.com; peter@thescirocco.com; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 12:10:33 PM
Subject: Re: G60 Valve Cover now rotorcharger

Peter Knows his stuff when it comes to the lysholm and CIS

 

he is a good guy and is a member of MIVE 

 

On 1/22/07, Mtl-Marc <marc_scirocco@sympatico.ca
> wrote: 
Nice engine bay!

How about the rpeterotorcharger? How much, how easy? Etc...

I came across the web site << 
http://rotorcharged.com/>> a while ago, and
been thinking about this...

Any opinion would be appreciated.


Cheers.

Marc

> -----Message d'origine----- 
> De : nocones77-vw@yahoo.com
 [mailto:nocones77-vw@yahoo.com]
> Envoy? : 22 janvier 2007 10:19
> ? : 
area53@validpath.com; peter@thescirocco.com
> Cc : 
scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> Objet : Re: G60 Valve Cover
>
> Sorry for the late reply, but I didn't see any others so 
> here's my .02.
>
> Just browse the K&N catalog for one with the right diameter

> to fit the rubber grommet.
>
> However, from my personal experience, there are two issues to
> consider:
>
> - I found one with the right diameter, but it was chromed and
> with forged pistons causing a bit of blow-by it wasn't hard

> to create enough crank case pressure to pop it out. Had to 
> put a hose clamp on there and really crank it down to work at
> all. I'd advise staying away from chrome, or come up with
> some way to knurl/scratch the base so it won't slide out of

> the rubber grommet so easily. 
>
> - You'll probably end up with some fumes in your cabin either
> way, but I found it much better to use the factory G60
> breather/separater with the rubber hose that would normally

> connect it to the boost recirc pipe, and put the filter in 
> the end of that. Maybe doesn't look as classy, but resulted
> in much less fumes and oil. (again, my forged pistons and
> resulting necessary blow-by may be partly to blame)

>
> You can see my setup here. 
> http://www.parts4vws.com/images/members/ntovsen/SciroccoEngineBay1.jpg

>
> If my car gets turned back into a street car, the first thing 
> I'm going to do is plumb the breather back into the intake as
> it should be, or at least run a hose over to a proper

> breather/separator tank to see if that helps. I've seen G60
> valve cover setups where they used an AN fitting to a hose 
> that went to a breather tank. Still not technically emissions
> compliant, but much less fumes, no saturated/dripping filters, etc.

>
> Neal
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Jeff Toomasson <area53@validpath.com
>
> To: peter@thescirocco.com
> Cc: 
scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 4:57:12 PM
> Subject: RE: G60 Valve Cover
>
> Speaking of the G60 valve cover, anyone know where to get
> those trick little round chrome filters for the breather hole? 

> Thx, JT
>
> > The 3A timing belt cover fits the G60 valvecover perfectly.
> > It comes on and off super easy, 2 snaps and you're done.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >> -----Message d'origine----- 

> >> De : Rick Kellner [mailto:rfkellner@snet.net] Envoy? : 16 janvier
> >> 2007
> >> 07:15 ? : 'Scirocco list'

> >> Objet : RE: G60 Valve Cover 
> >>
> >> Marc, I put a G60 VC on my 84.  I was also installing a
> fox intake so
> >> I wanted to put a larger throttle body on the car too.  I

> used a 16V
> >> throttle body because the accelerator cable was mounted to 
> the TB and
> >> not to the valve cover.
> >> Next, I modified a stock timing belt cover by

> >> cutting off the top portion of the belt cover.   Basically the top
> >> semi-circle portion was removed.  I had all the pieces 
> powder coated
> >> a 'cast aluminum' color.  If you want some pictures just

> let me know
> >> and  I can send them along.
> >> Rick.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message----- 
> >> From: 
marc_scirocco@sympatico.ca
> [mailto:marc_scirocco@sympatico.ca] Sent:
> >> Monday, January 15, 2007 10:25 PM 

> >> To: Scirocco list
> >> Subject: G60 Valve Cover
> >>
> >> Thinking of buying a Corrado G60 Valve Cover.
> >>
> >> I will also need the timing belt cover. 

> >>
> >> How is the fit of the new style top TB cover with the old style
> >> bottom  TB cover?
> >>
> >> Any suggestion?
> >>
> >> Cheers. 

> >>
> >> Marc
> >>
> >>
> >
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