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WE HAVE START!



Well, you just verified the list I made (I even thought about the fuel pump 
and the oil pump, man you just never know).  I was afraid to admit it, but 
since the starter was the only variable that had changed, I sorta knew that 
was it.  :P  Just took it out of the loop and no more phantom running motor 
noise.

So, guess this means I got a bad new starter?  Please tell me there is 
something I can try other than removing it AGAIN and ordering a new one!!!  
And things were going so well!  If getting it off and returning it to the 
point of purchase is the answer, I will get on that TONITE!  I want this car 
road worthy in 2-3 weeks for a ROAD TRIP to Savannah, GA (will be way more 
fun to drive than my Montero Sport).

Thanks!
Lexan



>From: "Dan Bubb" <jdbubb@verizon.net>
>To: "Lexan Blanchard" <lexan_122874@hotmail.com>, <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>Subject: Re: WE HAVE START!
>Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 14:32:31 -0500
>
>The only things I can thing of that'll run without the engine running are:
>Frequency valve (as mentioned by Daun)
>cooling fan ( I imagine you'd notice that!), the one thing that is supposed 
>to run without the ignition on if the engine's hot enough.
>Heater fan?
>Windshield washer pump
>Starter motor!
>
>I'd think you'd be able to tell if it was most of those things simply by 
>where the sound was coming from.
>I'm wondering if something's up with the starter though.
>I think the first thing I would do would be to remove the big + cable from 
>the starter solenoid. Be very careful that the end doesn't touch anything 
>by wrapping it in tape. Then connect the battery. Everything else in the 
>car is powered via a smaller cable attached to the battery + so if whatever 
>it is is still running you know it isn't the starter.
>If the starter is somehow getting current directly from the battery, not 
>via the solenoid, then the starter motor will run without engaging the 
>flywheel.
>I guess I'm focusing on the starter because for some reason mine engaged 
>while I was driving the car. By the time I could drive the 1/2 mile or so 
>home and pull the wire off the solenoid, the starter was a hot stinking 
>mess!
>Most of the other things I can think of, with the notable exception of the 
>starter motor, are designed to run continuously and wouldn't get overly hot 
>or smelly from running a short while.
>Congratulations on your perseverance and your success starting your car!
>Dan
>
>From: "Lexan Blanchard" <lexan_122874@hotmail.com>
>To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 2:07 PM
>Subject: WE HAVE START!
>
>
> > For all those who have been following the no-start-saga, the car has
> > officially been started (even if only briefly).
> >
> > Got the darned starter bushing out yesterday (after breaking a 1/2" tap 
>in
> > half, having to get the broken tap out, oh the joy), and the new one in 
>with
> > no problems (thanks to putting it into the freezer for an hour).  FYI, 
>those
> > who suggested I change the bushing were absolutely correct: when I got 
>it
> > out, it was oddly-shaped and the side that was farthest in was
> > disintegrated.
> >
> > Got the new starter on, battery charged and re-installed, and cranked 
>her
> > up.  KAAAAPOW!  Sweet, sweet ignition!  Then she cut off :(  and some
> > mysterious item kept running.  I jumped out and disconnected the battery
> > (because a car explosion inside the farm building would definitely get 
>my
> > car evicted and we would both be hanging outside in the cold cold 
>weather).
> >
> > After all that excitement, I decided some celebratory retail therapy was 
>in
> > order, so off to the mall and best buy/circuit city.
> >
> > OK, now, here is the new dilemma...  Just went to try to start again, 
>and
> > when I hooked up the battery, the mystery component is still running 
>(and
> > yes, the battery sparked at me when i connected and disconnected).
> > Definitely coming from the engine compartment, and sounds like a very 
>loud
> > hummmmm.  This item has not done this before yesterday's ignition, even
> > though many attempts have been made at starting the car.  Also, there is 
>a
> > smell that came with the sound, sorta dirty burning, like the first time 
>you
> > turn on your heater or a/c in the house (with a heat pump) after not 
>using
> > it for several months.
> >
> > Here are the things I did when changing the starter, in case this helps 
>a
> > diagnosis:
> > 1.  Obviously, replaced starter and bushing.  Put wires back per diagram 
>in
> > Bentley.
> > 2.  Disconnected and reconnected some hoses that impeded starter work.
> > 3.  Disconnecetd and reconnecetd fan connections.
> > 4.  Discovered and replaced bad fuse in panel (interior light).
> >
> > Any help is appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Lexan
> >
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