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I have a draw what to do??



I have done several away from home or on the road diagnosis like this. 
Brother-in-law is a body man, yet was amazed at this when I found his draw 
in minutes.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter" <peter@thescirocco.com>
To: "John S. Lagnese" <jlagnese@massed.net>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 9:57 PM
Subject: Re: I have a draw what to do??


>A test light might actually be easier to use, since you don't have to look 
>directly at it.
>
> :thumbup:
>
> Peter - 302.832.8989
> thescirocco.com
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John S. Lagnese" <jlagnese@massed.net>
> To: "Peter" <peter@thescirocco.com>; "Kevin S" <optimus234@hotmail.com>; 
> <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 8:12 PM
> Subject: Re: I have a draw what to do??
>
>
>> Just a light works if you don't have an ammeter.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Peter" <peter@thescirocco.com>
>> To: "Kevin S" <optimus234@hotmail.com>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 11:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: I have a draw what to do??
>>
>>
>>> Hook up an ammeter between the battery's positive terminal, and the 
>>> positive battery cable.
>>>
>>> Measure the current, and then remove each fuse in the fuse panel, until 
>>> you get to the circuit that's causing the drain.
>>>
>>> Depending on what circuit it is, you might be able to install a switch, 
>>> or do away with it.
>>>
>>> Peter - 302.832.8989
>>> thescirocco.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Kevin S" <optimus234@hotmail.com>
>>> To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 10:24 PM
>>> Subject: Re: I have a draw what to do??
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks to everyone for all the help. I will take all this new knowledge 
>>>> and takle the wiring asap.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again I really appreciate it.
>>>>
>>>> Kevin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>From: "C Boyko" <roccit_53@scirocco.cs.uoguelph.ca>
>>>>>Reply-To: <roccit_53@scirocco.cs.uoguelph.ca>
>>>>>To: " Kevin S " <optimus234@hotmail.com>
>>>>>Subject: Re: I have a draw what to do??
>>>>>Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 22:17:39 -0500
>>>>>
>>>>>On 8:52 pm 02/01/07 "Kevin S" <optimus234@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> > Im no good at wiring. I have a bad current flow the battery goes 
>>>>> > dead
>>>>> > over night. I know I have some loose wires because the wiring
>>>>> > harnesses are from different scirocco's put together. Everything
>>>>> > works that I want to work in the car. I have some loose wires not
>>>>> > sure what they are for.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I was hoping I could take out these wires and that it would get ride
>>>>> > of the current flow?
>>>>> > What is the best way of going about this?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Should I go after all my ground wires and the ones that are useless
>>>>> > just get rid of?? Would they be creating the draw??
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Again I don't really understand wiring, I guess my mind just has a
>>>>> > hard time understanding it.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Kevin
>>>>> >
>>>>>Typical path is battery positive to a coloured wire with a female
>>>>>connector, to the device, to the chassis/ground/battery negative. They 
>>>>>pass
>>>>>through the main fuse panel at some point, usually before going to the
>>>>>device.
>>>>>
>>>>>(Just try for a moment to visualize that, and you'll understand a lot 
>>>>>of
>>>>>the wiring on your car, it's just a path that goes from one end of the
>>>>>battery to the other, with a bunch of other stuff in the way; fuses and
>>>>>relays to protect stuff, switches for convenience, and of course the 
>>>>>thing
>>>>>you want to work, the "load", like a radio or wiper motor. That sort of
>>>>>shit.)
>>>>>
>>>>>If there's demand for too much current, it will melt the fuse, the fuse
>>>>>will save the device by melting away and preventing current flow to the
>>>>>device. Electrons will find their way back to the battery if the main
>>>>>ground cable from the negative to the chassis is in good shape, or 
>>>>>that's
>>>>>the way I look at it. I look at the chassis as a big river of electrons
>>>>>flowing back to the battery.
>>>>>Stock ground wires are usually brown, and there are a few "test 
>>>>>connectors"
>>>>>in many VeeDubs that do nothing, they're just there for the guys at the
>>>>>dealership to hook up for diagnostics. So, if it goes "to" the device, 
>>>>>it's
>>>>>likely a colourful wire with a female cannector, in which case, it's 
>>>>>not
>>>>>doing squat if it's not hooked up! (as long as it's not got metal 
>>>>>hitting
>>>>>the chassis) And if it's a ground wire, it just leads back to the 
>>>>>chassis,
>>>>>which is like a big river of electrons going back to the battery 
>>>>>negative,
>>>>>or that's the way the wiring diagrams read. Really, the electrons come 
>>>>>from
>>>>>the negative terminal since they have a negative charge, but who cares,
>>>>>they make the circuit one way or another. I've always found radios and 
>>>>>head
>>>>>units to be the source of my battery discharging grief, try pulling the
>>>>>fuses one at a time to see which one kills the offending circuit.
>>>>>Like it or not, you will have to trouble shoot wiring issues on these 
>>>>>cars,
>>>>>so may as well embrace the challenge!  If I can do it, you can too!
>>>>>GL finding the draw, it'll be a big pain in the ass, but what the heck 
>>>>>eh?
>>>>>Cathy
>>>>>
>>>>
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