Rear Shocks

[fahrvergnugen at cox.net (David Utley)]

-----Original Message-----
From: LEF [mailto:rocco16@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 9:47 PM
To: Peter; scirocco-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Rear Shocks 

Larry said:
'I'm not trying to tell you guys you have to do it my way.  I'm simply
giving 
those among you who want some encouragement an option.  I'm not giving you 
an argument, I'm giving you a choice.'


Larry, if you look back to some of your and my frequent irritations, you
will note that I, and others, believe you come across like a pompous ass.
While you might have not done this on this particular occasion, I don't
believe it was a choice on your part not to do so.  While I can't speak for
the whole of the list, I can say that -I- will be more likely to think you
are speaking from that same assy position that you are known for until I see
a tendency -not- to do so.  Don't believe me?  Look back through the
archives as I have, and read what you wrote.  I am willing to be that you
can see it too.  If you can't, then this note is without benefit, and you
should ignore it and trudge forth.

This is not a flame war.  I post this here in an effort to shut-down any
more slams on you on the list.  Sorry to be blunt, but it has helped in the
past.

David


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter" <peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'LEF'" <rocco16@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <scirocco-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 9:22 AM
Subject: RE: Rear Shocks question


> It must be nice to live in San Diego, California...
>
> I have a ~gallon refill container of PB Blaster, and it has the same 
> result.
> I've also tried a lot of other different penetrating oils, with the same
> result.
>
> When the shaft of the bolt completely rusts to the sleeve, it will not
> easily come apart, and my time is not worth wasting, trying to break free 
> a
> rusted bolt, when I can cut it off instead, and replace it with a new one,
> in about 20 minutes, or so.
>
> Time can not be replaced, but bolts can...
>
> Peter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LEF [mailto:rocco16@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 11:52 AM
> To: Peter; 'Cris Carpenter'; scirocco-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Rear Shocks question
>
> I've yet to see a frozen bolt that heat, time, patience, perseverance, and
> good penetrating oil (NOT WD-40) won't take care of.
>
> larry
> sandiego16v
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter" <peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "'Cris Carpenter'" <housecall55@xxxxxxxxx>; <scirocco-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 8:20 AM
> Subject: RE: Rear Shocks question
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Cris Carpenter
>>
>> We used to get the bolts to loosen up in the sleeves by heating them up
>> real
>> hot with an acetylene torch (you can only heat the exposed ends so it
>> takes
>> a while before the heat gets inside the sleeve), and then rattling them
>> out
>> with an air chisel. The idea is to get the rust holding the bolt to the
>> sleeve so hot that it disintegrates, but that technique requires those
>> tools. Another alternative is to bend the tangs of the lower supports out
>> to
>> allow some access and cutting the bolt off both sides with a metal 
>> cutting
>> sawzall.
>>
>>  Cris
>>
>>
>> Just a heads up...
>>
>> You have to be really careful torching gas charged shocks, because they
>> can
>> explode.
>> If they're Mk.1 factory shocks, then they're hydraulic shocks, so it
>> should
>> be okay.
>>
>> I usually try using a MAP gas torch, but I cut the round bottom shock
>> mount
>> off first to remove the shock, before I torch the rubber away, to expose
>> the
>> sleeve, so I don't have to worry about an explosion, and to help heat up
>> the
>> sleeve.
>> 3 out of 4 times, I usually end up having to cut the sleeve off anyway,
>> and
>> this is after getting them cherry red, and spraying WD-40, or water on 
>> it,
>> to help cool them off.
>>
>> Having the bolt seize up in the sleeve, is really common around here(east
>> coast), and I always use anti-seize on the bolts, so it doesn't happen
>> again.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  Message: 12
>> Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 02:15:57 +0000
>> From: silvius14@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Rear Shocks question
>> To: scirocco-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Message-ID:
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>> O.K.....so I got me some KYB Gas-A-just shocks for the rear and started 
>> on
>> the Passenger side.  I was amazed at how easy it was to replace.
>>  I'd say it took me 30-40 minutes to replace.  I know that's probably
>> slow.
>>
>> Now I tackle the Driver side............4 hrs later and I still haven't
>> gotten the old sachs shock off.  The issue I'm having is that I was able
>> to
>> remove the nut, but the bolt won't budge..........any ideas????
>>  I was thinking about using a dremel and cut off wheels and cut the the
>> bottom half of the cylinder with the bolt thru it and then cut the bolt 
>> in
>> half and replace.
>>
>> What have others done??
>>
>> Karl
>>
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