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And I'll send it back. Since Bush was in office:

The 500 Billion excess in tax money the Gov was to give back to the people 
is gone.

The deficit has reached record levels at ANY time in US history. estimated 
to excede 700 TRILLION by 2008.
More product comes in to the US then goes out.

US companies with offices in other countries DO NOT pay any form of tax on 
the income.

The 1.4 million with out health insurance has reached 45 million.

Millions of people entered the povety level for the first time.

The Gov spent 200 million training Indians in technology, offer them H1B 
visas, then offer tax breaks to companies hiring them. This has resulted in 
a 30% drop in technology sign ups in schools across the states.

The gov in their rash actions have spent ANY good will offered by other 
countries due to the attack in 2001.

3 Judges will retire next year from the supreme court. They will be replaced 
by republicans by Bush. The effect of this?
Row vs Wade will be over turned. Females will no longer have control over 
their own bodies.
Stem Cell research will stop.
Those of "alternate" life styles will be alienated by the courts.
The separation between church and state will diminish.

I love the States and the constitution. I served the people in the US air 
force. I fear we are witnessing the death the the "OLD" USA and watching a 
rebirth of a state more aligned with "mein Kamph" (spelling?)

I will be deleting any other political threads from now on folks. Sorry for 
the waste of band width.

Julie Macfarlane
1981 MKI 2L 16v w 2Y
Amsterdam NY




>From: "Erik" <pats16v@columbus.rr.com>
>Reply-To: Erik <pats16v@columbus.rr.com>
>To: "Anson Clement" <ansonivan@yahoo.com>, 
>"mtnman"<mountainman@direcway.com>,        <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>Subject: Re: Re:
>Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 19:58:02 -0500
>
>I may as well throw the first turd.
>
>
>It is that kind of attitude that will have the U.N./NATO running this 
>country, and we will be bowing down the China, Middle East, and most of 
>Europe.  Maybe you don't care what happens and you like seeing the 
>"establishment" looking bad in the Worlds Eye, but I for one would rather 
>be taking the fight to them instead of it being brought to us.  Or maybe 
>it's because you want Socialized Medicine?  Are you too lazy to find a job 
>that pays more than nine dollars an hour and offers health insurance?  Did 
>you happen to notice how all that worked out in Russia?  Or paying upwards 
>of 70-80% of your income to taxes?  Paying for a majority of lazy asses to 
>sit around and collect Wellfare because they are suffering from a 
>dibilitating corn on their foot.  No thanks.  I'll take War-mongering, low 
>taxes, and making people work for their livelyhood anytime.
>
>We are hated because we are a Capitalistic Society , we like to earn so 
>that we can have personal possessions,  and we let everyone else know it.  
>That and we don't praise Ala or Shabookie, or who ever.  Everyone is 
>jealous.  Be happy you live here.  If you don't like it pick a country and 
>move.  Call us in a year and tell us all how much better it is.  If the 
>U.S. is so bad then why does everyone come here to make a life?  Canada 
>might not be so bad. they are alot like us only they can't have guns.  
>Maybe you should just go there.  Although they would probably kick your ass 
>back across the border.
>
>E
>
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Anson Clement" <ansonivan@yahoo.com>
>To: "mtnman" <mountainman@direcway.com>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 11:23 AM
>Subject: Re:
>
>
>>Uh oh lad, better run for cover, here comes the shower of shit.
>>
>>Anson
>>
>>mtnman <mountainman@direcway.com> wrote:
>>really..since there are soooo many stupid Americans, then I guess we 
>>really do deserve to be hated around the world and have people trying to 
>>blow us up.
>>
>>
>>thank god I live in the middle of nowhere.
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