clutch problem

[derrickmd18 at verizon.net (Derrick flo)]

Thanks guys.  I ended up buying a new clutch for my car and installing my
old trans back into the car.  I didn't have the time to keeps messing with
the new trans and clutch to see what the problem was.  I know it wasn't the
clutch cable after all though.  because I installed the manual one and
adjusted it all the way up and it did the same thing.  How ever I have some
things that might have been the problem:
1. flywheel bolts where put on with a impact gun and not torqued=could this
cause it?
2. 6 puck solid disk with a 8v pressure plate
3. tranny syncros might have been bad

----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Bureau" <ats@longcoeur.com>
To: "'calimus'" <calimus@techography.net>; "'Derrick flo'"
<derrickmd18@verizon.net>; "'Don Walter'" <dswalterwi@earthlink.net>;
<scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 4:49 AM
Subject: RE: clutch problem


> No hatred, just a simple mathematical solution, self-adjusting clutch
cable
> - 40-60$, non self adjusting - 8-12$.
> Personally never had a self adjusting cable in any Scirocco I own, but
from
> what I hear in general, they are expensive, and eventually break down a
lot
> faster than the simple non-adjusting cable. But I am not against them per
> say.
>
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>
> ->-----Original Message-----
> ->From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> ->[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of calimus
> ->Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 12:23 AM
> ->To: Patrick Bureau; 'Derrick flo'; 'Don Walter';
> ->scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> ->Subject: Re: clutch problem
> ->
> ->What is with all this hatred of the self-adjusting clutch
> ->cable.  I still have the original on mine and I love it.
> ->Never needs adjusting, feels like I have a hydro clutch and
> ->sure as hell doesn't feel like I'm pushing a brick through
> ->the floor like all the manual cable cars I've driven (I'm
> ->sure that last part is due to poor adjustment though).
> ->
> ->Personally, I'd rather have the self adjuster on my car.  So
> ->if you have on in good shape, don't chunk it, just ship it to
> ->me, I'd love to have a few spares just incase mine ever does crap out.
> ->
> ->William
> ->----- Original Message -----
> ->From: "Patrick Bureau" <ats@longcoeur.com>
> ->To: "'Derrick flo'" <derrickmd18@verizon.net>; "'Don Walter'"
> -><dswalterwi@earthlink.net>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> ->Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 12:50 AM
> ->Subject: RE: clutch problem
> ->
> ->
> ->> Indeed the self adjusting cable would of compensated for the missing
> ->bushign
> ->> and now that you have them back on  the adjustemtn is too
> ->tight and the
> ->> tranny never gets a chance to release the clutch to engage...
> ->>
> ->> Quick test, take the bushings off and see if everythign
> ->comes back to
> ->> normal, if so, take 15$ and get a manual adjusting cable
> ->and replace it.
> ->>
> ->>
> ->> ---
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> ->>
> ->>
> ->>
> ->> ->-----Original Message-----
> ->> ->From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> ->> ->[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of Derrick flo
> ->> ->Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 1:01 AM
> ->> ->To: Don Walter; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> ->> ->Subject: Re: clutch problem
> ->> ->
> ->> ->o ok.  I don't have a manual adjust clutch cable.  mine is
> ->> ->self adjustable.
> ->> ->I had it on there without the bushing and hardware on a 4K
> ->> ->tranny.  I replaced the trans with a ACD and added the
> ->> ->bushing and hardware kit so I might have messed it up with me
> ->> ->driving it with only the clip on it.
> ->> ->
> ->> ->
> ->> ->----- Original Message -----
> ->> ->From: "Don Walter" <dswalterwi@earthlink.net>
> ->> ->To: "Derrick flo" <derrickmd18@verizon.net>; "Don Walter"
> ->> -><dswalterwi@earthlink.net>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> ->> ->Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 7:47 PM
> ->> ->Subject: Re: clutch problem
> ->> ->
> ->> ->
> ->> ->> A quick way is by the play in your pedal.  There should
> ->not be much.
> ->> ->>
> ->> ->> Other wise here is the Bently method:
> ->> ->> 1. Operate the clutch pedal several times.  Loosen the
> ->> ->cable locknut.
> ->> ->> 2. Raise the clutch release lever by hand until
> ->resistance is felt.
> ->> ->> 3. Adjust freeplay by turning the adjusting disc until
> ->the clearance
> ->> ->between the adjusting disc and the transaxle housing is
> ->12.0+/-0.3mm
> ->> ->(.472+/-0.12in.)
> ->> ->> 4. Tighten the cable locknut.  Freeplay at the clutch
> ->release lever
> ->> ->> should
> ->> ->now be 6.0+/-0.3mm (.236+/-.012in.)  Torque the locknut to 36
> ->> ->to 48in. lb.
> ->> ->>
> ->> ->> HTH
> ->> ->> Don
> ->> ->>
> ->> ->> -----Original Message-----
> ->> ->> From: Derrick flo <derrickmd18@verizon.net>
> ->> ->> Sent: Mar 25, 2004 11:36 PM
> ->> ->> To: Don Walter <dswalterwi@earthlink.net>,
> ->scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> ->> ->> Subject: Re: clutch problem
> ->> ->>
> ->> ->> how would I check that?
> ->> ->>
> ->> ->>
> ->> ->> ----- Original Message -----
> ->> ->> From: "Don Walter" <dswalterwi@earthlink.net>
> ->> ->> To: "Derrick flo" <derrickmd18@verizon.net>;
> ->> -><scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> ->> ->> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 6:21 PM
> ->> ->> Subject: Re: clutch problem
> ->> ->>
> ->> ->>
> ->> ->> > Doesn't sound like your clutch is engaging completly.
> ->> ->Better check
> ->> ->> > the
> ->> ->> adjustment.
> ->> ->> >
> ->> ->> > -----Original Message-----
> ->> ->> > From: Derrick flo <derrickmd18@verizon.net>
> ->> ->> > Sent: Mar 25, 2004 11:10 PM
> ->> ->> > To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> ->> ->> > Subject: clutch problem
> ->> ->> >
> ->> ->> > I just replaced my clutch and tranny and now it won't go
> ->> ->into gear
> ->> ->> > with
> ->> ->> the car running.  With the car off it will go into every
> ->> ->gear.  I have
> ->> ->> to put the car in first gear then start it.  then it won't
> ->> ->go into any
> ->> ->> other gear.  when I push in the clutch it will
> ->disengage but I can
> ->> ->> still feel it engaged a little tiny bit. when its running
> ->> ->it won't go
> ->> ->> into any gear.  I have to force it in to a gear if it will
> ->> ->go and it
> ->> ->> will grind hard
> ->> ->engaging.
> ->> ->> Anyone know what the problem may be?
> ->> ->> >
> ->> ->> >
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