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2.0l block

Cathy, there is no need to apologize and I hope it was not due to my
comments since they were not intended that way.  Unfortunately email
text, especially from an engineer, can come across a little stark.
I am enjoying hearing any discussions regarding 2.0l modifications. 
Rick Kellner.

-----Original Message-----
From: C Boyko [mailto:roccit_53@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 7:42 PM
To: rfkellner@snet.net; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Subject: RE: 2.0l block

I apologise, I just now dug back to the original post, and everything
I've 
read suggests that for a P&P, a 2L is the way to go, so I'm sorry I
didn't 
read back far enough.
Regardless, I'm happy with my build, and I can't comment on anything
other 
than what I have in mine can I?
Cathy


>From: "Rick Kellner" <rfkellner@snet.net>
>To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>Subject: RE: 2.0l block
>Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 09:26:13 -0500
>
>The original question was whether to P&P a 1.8 or 2.0.  IMHO I believe
>that the end result will be similar however; the 2.0 head affords the
>machinist more metal to work with.
>As far as the increase HP of the stock 1.8 head; I was using the lower
>number referenced in Raven's book.  If I do not have 'estimate' of the
>gains I cannot justify the investment in the upgrade.  I have to weigh
>the cost/benefit.  I am choosing the upgrades with the biggest bang for
>the buck and I do realize that you reach a point of diminishing
returns.
>The last few HP come at an extremely high price.
>Rick K.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
>[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of C Boyko
>Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 8:58 AM
>To: MK1Scirocco16v@comcast.net; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
>Subject: RE: 2.0l block
>
>Well I personally am too weak to throw a 2L head far enough to qualify
>as
>"away", though mine did end up in Barrie. ( I liked my 2L head just
>fine,
>but had the 1.8 rebuilt )
>
>Seriously, I always have issues with saying this or that will add x hp,
>especially something like a head. It's part of the puzzle, the rest
>being
>intake, cams, exhaust, and so on, adding just one isn't going to net
you
>the
>same as if you add that same thing after all the other things have been
>done. I'm making decent power on a 1.8 head (133 at the wheels, with
the
>2L
>head it made 112, which is about right for the rated 130ish at the
>engine),
>so it's certainly not a bad option. But I added all that other good
>stuff
>too.
>Cathy
>1987 16V 2L/1.8 head and NO MUFFLER!!!
>1979 8V that makes exactly half the power (for now)
>Which camp was I in again?
>
> >From: "Dave Ewing" <MK1Scirocco16v@comcast.net>
> >To: "Scirocco-L@Scirocco.Org" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> >Subject: RE: 2.0l block
> >Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 00:50:18 -0800
> >
> >The 1.8L head by itself does not add an extra 10hp.  Hope you didn't
>invest
> >a bunch of money in that old head and throw your 2.0L head away that
> >actually had more potential.
> >
> >Dave
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> >[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Julie Macfarlane
> >Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 6:36 AM
> >To: ceatock@sympatico.ca; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> >Subject: RE: 2.0l block
> >
> >
> >A short block is the lower section only with out the head. I paid
$650
>US
> >for a rebuilt block and spent almost $550 on the head to prep the
>engine.
> >Do
> >I think it was worth the trouble? Well, I no longer hold the title
for
>the
> >"Rocc with the least HP".  :)
> >
> >A new 9A block is about 135 hp + 10 hp for the 1.8 head. Sooo about
145
>HP
> >instead of 50? Scotch guard is wonderful!
> >
> >The 9A block will fit in a MKI for sure.
> >IIRC the ABA (8V) is a bit taller (physically) if that is what you
>mean.
> >
> >
> >
> >Julie Macfarlane
> >1981 MKI 2L 16v
> >Amsterdam NY
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Chad Eatock" <ceatock@sympatico.ca>
> > >To: "scirocco list" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > >Subject: 2.0l block
> > >Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 02:27:03 -0500
> > >
> > >Will a 2.0l block from a 90's golf, jetta or passat work for a
rocco
> > >conversion?  I found a 2.0l engine up here for $750CDN...is it
worth
>it?
> > >It's the whole engine though head and block.....how do you know if
>it's a
> > >tall block or short?
> > >Chadster '87 16v
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