[FOOLISHNESS] VW's Gone Wild

[SequoiaGLX at twcny.rr.com (SequoiaGLX@twcny.rr.com)]

Yeah, obviously, it's just like a search warrant for your house.  If you tell them, "No, you can't search it", then they have to provide probable cause to a judge for a search warrant.  But if you just give them permission to come in they can look whereever they want..

Agree on the unfortunate image...

John K. Gates
--
'97 Jetta GLX - daily driver
'85 Scirocco Flash Silver, waiting for my new house/shop for a complete
teardown/buildup sometime soon...

----- Original Message -----
From: Calimus <calimus@techography.net>
Date: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 8:43 pm
Subject: Re: [FOOLISHNESS] VW's Gone Wild

> I would think that in a case where this occured, if they hadn't 
> been caught
> but rather tracked down due to someone giving lisence platinfo, 
> then maybe a
> warrent would be required.  However, if the officer asked for the 
> tape and
> the idiot actually turned it over, then I don't think a warrent is 
> required.However, if the officer asked for the tape and the person 
> said no, the
> officer could just hold them there and then call in for a warrent 
> to be
> issued and delivered right there on the spot.
> 
> In all fairness, these idiots got exactly what they deserved.    I 
> hate to
> see VW drivers making the headlines in the way but it's not just 
> VW drivers
> that do this crap.  However, I have noticed that in the VW family, 
> it'stypicly (not always and not all of them) the MK3 and MK4 
> owners that are in
> their teens and early 20's that seem to pull this kinda crap.  
> Down here in
> Atlanta there is a massive MK3/4 group just as I've describbed and 
> they are
> always pulling this kinda shit and giving the community here a bad 
> name.Several of them were part of the "lets trash the hotels" 
> crowd at Waterfest.
> An many of them are like this even here locally.  Some of the 
> events here
> have banned entire groups (small clubs) due to this kind of 
> behavior and I
> can't say that I blam the promotors a bit for it.  It a real 
> dissapointmentthat this kind of thing happens because over the 
> last few years that I've
> been really into the VW sceen, I've seen many of these younger 
> drivers end
> up dead because they did these kinds of things.  Not to mention 
> that more
> times then not, they usually end up hurting innocent 
> drivers/passengers in
> the process.  So I hate to see it happen, but I think that what is 
> happeningthis particular group is well deserved.
> 
> I'm also not saying they I'm a saint.  I'll admit that there have 
> been times
> I take my rocco over 100mph, and while I do it on the highway and 
> only when
> it's a straight shot and no other cars are around, that doesn't 
> make it
> right.  But if I got caught, I'd surely own up to it.
> 
> William
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Allyn" <amalventano@sc.rr.com>
> To: <jasonfsnow@optonline.net>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 4:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [FOOLISHNESS] VW's Gone Wild
> 
> 
> > not that im trying to defend those jokers, but wouldnt they need 
> some form
> > of warrant to sieze the video tape evidence? along the lines of 
> the fact
> > that its not the law for you to incriminate yourself. wouldnt 
> the tape be
> > doing that? also, video tapes are generally not admissable in 
> court, and
> if
> > they are admitted, they are only considered under the oath of 
> the person
> > running the camera (the fact that they are unaltered). this 
> follows the
> > lines of the miranda rights. you basically tell the dumbass not 
> to say
> > anything so they dont incriminate themselves. i seriously doubt 
> that guy
> > jumped out and said 'here officer, check out this cool video!'. 
> example: i
> > could photoshop a shot of the speedo in the rieger, making it 
> appear that
> it
> > was doing 160 mph. there would be no case against me as there is 
> no way to
> > validate the photo without my agreement that it was authentic, 
> and even if
> i
> > claimed it was authentic (as silly as that may be for me to 
> incriminate> myself), its still only my word, and not taken as 
> some form of
> 'video/photo
> > factual data'.
> >
> > (probably way wrong - someone please fix me if so)
> > Al
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: <jasonfsnow@optonline.net>
> > To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 11:17 AM
> > Subject: [FOOLISHNESS] VW's Gone Wild
> >
> >
> > > http://necn.mirror-image.com/media/VIDEO/072104_vws_worcester.wmv
> > >
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