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----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Bubb" <jdbubb@ix.netcom.com>
To: <tomc@satx.rr.com>; "Allyn" <amalventano@sc.rr.com>
Cc: "Scirocco list" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: got shocks?


> If your inner rear tire is in the air then putting a bigger rear bar on the car will only lift the
> rear tire higher in the air!
> Once you've got a tire in the air adding roll stiffness to that end will do no good.
> Putting a bigger front bar on would reduce overall roll. It may seem counterintuitive but a bigger
> front bar will probably increase your cornering speed.
> Normally a bigger front bar will increase understeer, but in the autocross environment where
you've
> already got a rear tire in the air putting a larger front bar will reduce overall roll and as a
> result the front tires are more perpendicular to the road and will grip better. (at least that's
> some of the consensus of the VWautocross yahoo group)
> Normally I wouldn't consider poly bushings, but again, in this environment the stiffer bushings
> would probably make a big contribution to limiting unwanted positive camber due to bushing
> deflection.
> Getting back to the shocks. I have Koni's (and damned old ones at that!) on my 84 with Eibach
> springs and new Gabriels (which are supposed to be equivalent to Boge's) on my 87 with H & R
> springs. There is absolutely no comparison in terms of stability and control between the two cars.
> Where the 87 bobs and weaves and floats thru turns the 84 is just totally buttoned down.
> I think in the autocross environment Konis or Bilstiens would make a huge difference although it
> hasn't been my experience that they will necessarily keep your back tires on the ground.
> http://www.funksoulkitty.org/miscpics/autocross2_t.jpg
>
> Dan
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "tomc" <tomc@satx.rr.com>
> To: "Allyn" <amalventano@sc.rr.com>
> Cc: "Scirocco list" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 9:11 AM
> Subject: Re: got shocks?
>
>
> > Hi Al,
> >
> > Thanks for the response. So, a bigger beefier rear sway bar might make
> > my car look less scarier on the course? And maybe get a few more tens
> > off my times too? Heck, that's would be cheaper than new Koni's. Has
> > anyone tried the rear sway bars from BSI racing or Shine racing?
> >
> > The spectators will be disappointed if I fix the rear wheel lift thing,
> > seems they think it's neat.
> >
> > Thanks again,
> > Tom C
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 2004-07-19 at 17:25, Allyn wrote:
> > > Tom,
> > > keep in mind that struts/shocks will not change steady state cornering roll.
> > > the only way to correct that is with stiffer roll bushings (poly), stiffer
> > > roll bars, and higher spring rates.
> > > hth
> > > Al
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "tomc" <tomc@satx.rr.com>
> > > To: "Scirocco list" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > > Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 9:55 AM
> > > Subject: got shocks?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hey all,
> > > >
> > > > I did my July autoX yesterday and one of the members took some action
> > > > shots of my car. I posted the best one on my index page called got
> > > > shocks. The rest are in the photo album under autoX. It looks a lot
> > > > scarier than it felt. I guess I need to save up for some Koni's now.
> > > >
> > > > Unfortunately the photo album I use does not work well with Netscape
> > > > stuff, so Mozilla and Firefox won't view the autoX pictures. I'm looking
> > > > for a new/better and free photo album.
> > > >
> > > > TomC
> > > > '79 "The Project" Scirocco
> > > > http://www.tom-c.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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