reverse issue with an 8v tranny--Grind prevention

[SequoiaGLX at twcny.rr.com (SequoiaGLX@twcny.rr.com)]

It's going between gears when you are moving.  You push the clutch in, go to neutral, let the clutch out and rev-match for the next gear, then put the clutch in, pick the gear and let the clutch out.

Done quickly and properly it makes for very smooth shifts that just slip in like butter.  It was necessary on the very old cars/trucks, but we're talking 30's and 40's, because they didn't have syncros.  I do it on any standard I drive not because it's necessary but because it makes things much smoother and saves the syncros.  It makes by far the biggest difference on downshifts.

John K. Gates
--
Rome, NY
'97 Jetta GLX - daily driver
'85 Scirocco Flash Silver, waiting for my new house/shop for a complete
teardown/buildup sometime soon...

----- Original Message -----
From: Jacob Hawes <gr8hunter1@comcast.net>
Date: Friday, August 27, 2004 2:50 am
Subject: Re: reverse issue with an 8v tranny--Grind prevention

> Since I'm only 17 and have no experience driving vehicles older 
> than 
> 1980 I am curious. Does double clutching only apply when moving 
> from a 
> standstill? Because if so then I automatically do that just to 
> make sure 
> I am going into first. When I first put the new tranny in I had 
> problems 
> with it and thought I was getting into first but was actually in 
> third.
> Lars Bruchmann wrote:
> 
> >my grandpa double-clutched everything.. back when he
> >learned to drive, nothing was synched, that was back
> >when hitler was in power he drove huge MBs into the
> >russia.  
> >--- Marc_Scirocco_Qu?bec <marc_scirocco@sympatico.ca>
> >wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Yup, it is called "double clutching" IIRC, like them
> >>old '40s trucks.
> >>
> >>I've been told by an ex VW dealership mechanic that
> >>they grind in 1st and in
> >>reverse if the clutch drags on the flywheel. Like if
> >>there is worn parts,
> >>clutch, rod or other...
> >>
> >>Cheers.
> >>
> >>Marc
> >>'83 Scirocco
> >>'97 A4
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>-----Message d'origine-----
> >>>De : scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> >>>[scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org]De la part
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>de Theron Ross
> >>    
> >>
> >>>Envoy? : jeudi 26 ao?t 2004 16:52
> >>>? : Calimus; Scirocco-l
> >>>Objet : Re: reverse issue with an 8v tranny--Grind
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>prevention
> >>    
> >>
> >>>I don't have any suggestions for your current
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>problem, but there's an easy
> >>    
> >>
> >>>way to prevent the dreaded
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>into-reverse-grind-shift on any manual tranny:
> >>    
> >>
> >>>At a complete standstill, before shifting into
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>reverse, depress the clutch
> >>    
> >>
> >>>and shift into another gear (For example, on VWs,
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>I typically
> >>    
> >>
> >>>shift up into
> >>>third first), then back into neutral and let the
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>clutch out, and then
> >>    
> >>
> >>>drepress the clutch pedal again and shift into
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>reverse as usual and you'll
> >>    
> >>
> >>>NEVER get a grind.
> >>>
> >>>I've never opened a tranny up and know nothing
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>about the
> >>    
> >>
> >>>internals, but I've
> >>>used this in all the vehicles I've ever driven and
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>I never get a grind.
> >>    
> >>
> >>>Best thing is, it's easy to do and easy to make a
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>part of your
> >>    
> >>
> >>>daily driving
> >>>habits.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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