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VW Dealership



what can i say... VAG owns a majority in a large,
german glass business... hahahahaha.  hohohohoho,
hehehehehehe.  
'confucious say: man who live in glass house should
change in basement'
--- David Utley <fahrvegnugen@cox.net> wrote:

> 
> > 
> > From: Lars Bruchmann <pilotlars@yahoo.com>
> > Date: 2004/08/26 Thu PM 02:24:46 EDT
> > To: fahrvegnugen@cox.net,  Brian
> <brianm@earendel.org>
> > CC: Daun Yeagley <vwdaun@yahoo.com>, 
> scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > Subject: Re: RE: VW Dealership
> > 
> > wow, i do want electronic ignition... maybe when
> this
> > 1.6 gives out i'll throw in a 1.8 16v with a 5
> speed. 
> > or maybe i can swipe a 1.8T with a 6-speed from my
> VW
> > dealer when they aren't looking! how much do they
> > weigh???  i'll start working out today.... PS- our
> VW
> > dealer's building is entirely built of glass, so
> > everyone would see me, hahaha, btw, i think a
> glass
> > building is a great idea in the middle of tornado
> > alley!
> >  
> 
> You can thank your German Brethren for that... 
> Every VW dealership that is being built now, they
> all have the same front, glass, glass, and glass...
> 
> David
> 
> > --- David Utley <fahrvegnugen@cox.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > From: Lars Bruchmann <pilotlars@yahoo.com>
> > > > Date: 2004/08/25 Wed PM 11:51:46 EDT
> > > > To: Brian <brianm@earendel.org>,  David Utley
> > > <fahrvegnugen@cox.net>
> > > > CC: Daun Yeagley <vwdaun@yahoo.com>, 
> > > scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > > Subject: RE: VW Dealership
> > > > 
> > > > hi, i drive a 1979 'rocco, with the original
> 1.6
> > > low
> > > > output (high vibration and high noise output)
> > > engine,
> > > > non electronic ignition with no catalytic
> > > converter..
> > > > and no emission control at all.. so maybe i'm
> a
> > > bit
> > > > behind the times.. but what the dickens is a
> coil
> > > > pack??  and why do they cost as much as my
> rent???
> > > 
> > > 
> > > T'aint a problem you will have to deal with,
> > > McGee...   :-)
> > > 
> > > A coil pack replaces the distributor, it is a
> > > direct-fire ignition.  The comupter senses
> 'pulses'
> > > from a magnetic sensor in the bellhousing (ETKA
> > > calls these 'impulse senders).  That tells the
> > > computer when to fire the ignition without need
> of a
> > > distributor.  It is much more accurate as well,
> as
> > > you do not have all the gearing slop that you
> would
> > > with a dist.  The coil packs tend to have the
> > > amplifiers built in as well (an amplifier you
> would
> > > not see on your car originally, unless you
> updated
> > > to a pointless ignition system...  When the coil
> > > packs go out, it is nine times out of ten, the
> > > amplifier alone that has failed.  One reason why
> > > they are so expensive is because of the fact
> that
> > > you are buying two items...  Everything is an
> > > assembly anymore...  Eventually, the engines
> > > themselves will be complete assemblies!  [/rant]
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > >   David
> > > > --- Brian <brianm@earendel.org> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > So Now I have an unnamed individual
> complaining
> > > that
> > > > > the coilpacks dont 
> > > > > work worth a crapola with an aftermarket
> EMS,
> > > and VW
> > > > > charging $600 to 
> > > > > replace 4 coilpacks. damn I could make a
> fortune
> > > > > replacing the std crappy 
> > > > > VW ones with a GM setup... or hell 4
> original vw
> > > > > coils and bosch008 
> > > > > modules...
> > > > > I'd only charge... $500...
> > > > > hehehe...
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Mon, 23 Aug 2004, David Utley wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Tonee,
> > > > > >   I will offer a few comments, if only to
> > > serve as
> > > > > a bit of a sounding board
> > > > > > and so much as an employee of another
> (ahem)
> > > > > dealership...  :)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> > > > > > [mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org]On
> > > Behalf
> > > > > Of Tonee Northam
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 11:10 PM
> > > > > > To: Daun Yeagley
> > > > > > Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > > > > Subject: VW Dealership
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > They told me the loose air intake boot
> > > (bullshit)
> > > > > was the cause for the
> > > > > > check engine light and "emmisions
> workshop"
> > > > > message.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I respect your opinion, however, what
> makes
> > > you
> > > > > think that this is not
> > > > > > possible?  I am assuming that the car in
> > > question
> > > > > is some version of an A4
> > > > > > platform...
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > And that the driver's side seat airbag
> needed
> > > to
> > > > > be completely replaced for
> > > > > > $720.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Today, this get's
> better...................
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > For some odd reason they "said" they check
> the
> > > > > coil pack by spraying water
> > > > > > on it, stating that it was arching. I
> didn't
> > > ask
> > > > > them to check that. $600 to
> > > > > > replace. Last time I checked I was born on
> > > > > 11-26-69 at 0430, not fckn
> > > > > > yesturday.
> > > > > > Is this a Passat?  I do not know of any
> coil
> > > that
> > > > > is that high.  The
> > > > > > amplifier for the Passat however is 450.00
> or
> > > > > so...
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > When I inspected the engine bay around the
> > > coil
> > > > > pack, dust and dirt
> > > > > > everywhere. Not one thing showed the
> removal
> > > of
> > > > > the engine cover to get to
> > > > > > the coil pack. Water seems to magically
> turn
> > > into
> > > > > dust and dirt only in a
> > > > > > dealership service department, I think I
> found
> > > > > David Copperfield!
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Yeah, that is a new one on me, although
> the
> > > > > reasoning is sound.  The
> > > > > > evidence would be enough for me to
> question
> > > them
> > > > > as well however...
> > > > > > 
> 
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