OT:16v: how do i keep oil NOW: Car companies

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Yep, look at the 300 ci straight six Ford used in their trucks from 1964 or so to 1996.  I have over 200k miles on mine and it's been abused.  Still going strong.  There are quite a few people with over 300, and even 400k miles and they're still running.  They swear they got rid of it because they couldn't make it meet emissions or it didn't fit the shorter hoodline on newer trucks or something.  That motor made gobs of usable power below 2000 rpm, perfect for a truck.  It was like a tractor engine.  Similar story with the Jeep 4.0l straight 6.

There are 7 nice beefy main bearings and primary and secondary harmonics are canceled out with a 6 because of the 120? throws.  Same reason VR6's take a heck of a beating, they have the same properties.  A lot of this is canceled out with the domestic V-6's because they split paired throws to make them run smooth, etc.

John K. Gates
--
'97 Jetta GLX - daily driver
'85 Scirocco Flash Silver, waiting for my new house/shop for a complete
teardown/buildup sometime soon...

----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Smith <sad_rocc@yahoo.com>
Date: Wednesday, August 4, 2004 2:09 pm
Subject: Re:16v: how do i keep oil NOW: Car companies

> Along these lines, I've heard from a few people about a rumor 
> regarding straight 6s. I heard that they lasted for ages and were 
> super reliable, durable engines and because they lasted so long, 
> companies opted to stop using them. Sounds like an urban legend, 
> but I figured someone here would know.
> 
> Also, to further muddy the waters, car companies don't necesarily 
> build to fail, but when they notice various small parts that seem 
> to be a weak link often they don't redesign it if they figure it 
> will be cheaper to just fix it later. Honda had this issue in the 
> late 90s I believe. But then again, I could be 100% wrong on 
> everything. 
> 
> Dan- Body of a 20something, mind of a 60something
> 
> Dan Bubb <jdbubb@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> >> >
> > > > > (why do we always think we are better engineers than those 
> who designed
> > > > > this car??)
> > > > > :)
> > > > > Larry
> > > > > sandiego16v
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, another point on this... These manufacturers design 
> these cars to fail,
> > >
> > >
> > > HUH??? Puuleease
> > >
> > > >we try to make them so that they -won't-... :-)
> > > >
> > > > Cheers.
> > > > David
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > Sorry Dan,
> > But you do not want to go head to head with me on this one... 
> Working here, I see it, each and
> > every bloody day... Persist at your peril... :-)
> 
> 
> The fact that they do fail doesn't mean they are designed to do 
> so! If you design for failure it's
> guaranteed that is what you'll get. If you design for reliability 
> you don't always achieve it.
> You have heard of J.D. Power??
> No car company wants a crappy reputation and designing for failure 
> is a sure fire way to get one!
> Dan
> 
> >
> > Cheers,
> > David
> >
> > PS-- I will add, that VWs are better at working over the long 
> haul. Ours, that is. The A4 and
> A3 body style, not near the longevity... BTW, no offense was 
> intended, so puuulease do not take
> what was not there...
> >
> >
> > ---Chrome don't get you home.---
> >
> 
> 
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