frozen crankshaft sprocket bolt (now pg-13)

[txrocco at sbcglobal.net (ATS - Patrick Bureau)]

remember if it is the glass type of milk bottle, they ae not pyrex, so apply
heat slowly...(dont want any chards yanno :)0


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=>-----Original Message-----
=>From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
=>[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Anson Clement
=>Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:20 AM
=>To: Ron Pieper; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
=>Subject: Re: frozen crankshaft sprocket bolt (now pg-13)
=>
=>
=>crap!.... so much for screwing milk bottles..... er I mean.... hehe
=>
=>Anson
=>
=>Ron Pieper <rapieper@yahoo.com> wrote:
=>Na...
=>
=>Heat expands stuff...the bolt gets bigger, BUT so does the hole.
=>And, since the threaded hole is
=>a bit bigger than the bolt, it WILL become looser.
=>
=>And the heat serves but burn dirt, rust etc. which helps too.
=>
=>Larry will confirm this, I'm sure.
=>
=>Ron
=>
=>
=>--- Dan Bubb wrote:
=>> So, far Anson has THE BEST reply to the frozen crankshaft bolt question!
=>> Graphic! But, clearly the most original!
=>>
=>> ----- Original Message -----
=>> From: "Anson Clement"
=>> To:
=>> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 7:59 AM
=>> Subject: Re: frozen crankshaft sprocket bolt (now pg-13)
=>>
=>>
=>> > Holy crap guy! Will you stop heating the bolt already? Heat causes
=>> expansion yes? so in effect you are making a bad situation
=>badder.... or is
=>> that worser..... whatever.
=>> >
=>> > What you described is similar to sticking your willy in a
=>milk jug (or for
=>> those less blessed, a beer bottle) and watching footage of
=>britney spears
=>> make out with madona..... yea I guess that might not work for
=>some.... but
=>> anyways you get the idea..... willy swell no come out of bottle.
=>> >
=>> > Where was I? ......
=>> >
=>> > Anson
=>> >
=>> > Dave wrote:
=>> > There are lots of great "stuck crankshaft sprocket bolt" solutions
=>> available on this site especially the "crankshaft seal fun!"
=>threads, and
=>> believe me, I tried each and every one, but I cannot get the
=>motherf.uh, I
=>> mean, the gosh darn thing off!
=>> >
=>> >
=>> >
=>> > Its a 1984 'rocco with a 1.8.
=>> >
=>> >
=>> >
=>> > Here's what I've tried so far, each of them with and without liberal
=>> applications of heat and blood.
=>> >
=>> >
=>> >
=>> > 1. Factory stock breaker bar, oil pan off and crankshaft locked with a
=>> block of wood between crank counterweights and the side of the
=>engine block
=>> (the side closest to the front-end). Heated bolt for about 10
=>minutes with
=>> MAPP gas.
=>> >
=>> >
=>> >
=>> > RESULTS: Splintered wood, amused neighbors.
=>> >
=>> >
=>> >
=>> > 2. Modifed breaker bar (6 foot galvanized pipe cheater bar,
=>powder coated
=>> blue, poly thread caps, etc.) and also an upgrade kit for the
=>piece of wood
=>> which consisted of a lead dead-blow hammer. The hammer's head
=>fit perfectly
=>> sideways against the counterweights and the side of the block.
=>The breaker
=>> bar affair was braced with jackstands where the socket met the bolt and
=>> where the breaker bar met the socket. The bolt was again
=>heated. I leaned
=>> about 90 pounds on the end of the 6 foot bar, generating about
=>500 ft-lbs.
=>> of torque.
=>> >
=>> >
=>> >
=>> > RESULTS: Thankfully, nothing. I was unsure of the amount of
=>force required
=>> to crack the block, and chickened out at 500 ft-lbs. Should I
=>just go for
=>> this? With a friend or two, I could easily put a few ft.-tons
=>on the bolt.
=>> Its not my car, so I'm a little paranoid.
=>> >
=>> >
=>> >
=>> > 3. Breaker bar on the bolt and bump the starter..
=>> >
=>> >
=>> >
=>> > RESULTS: Nothing. Stopped the starter dead in it's tracks.
=>> >
=>> >
=>> >
=>> > 4. Jack up the car and then lower its weight on to the bolt via the
=>> breaker bar. Heated the bolt.
=>> >
=>> >
=>> >
=>> > RESULTS: Nothing. Engine began to lift unpleasantly.
=>> >
=>> >
=>> >
=>> > 5. Pound on the breaker bar (again braced with the jackstands) using a
=>> sledgehammer. Heated the f****ng bolt.
=>> >
=>> >
=>> >
=>> > RESULTS: Nothing, and this one really felt like it was working.
=>> >
=>> >
=>> >
=>> > 6. Impact wrench. Heated the bolt. This was a normal sized gun that
=>> probably didn't have a hell of a lot of torque, but did break a cheapo
=>> non-impact socket.
=>> >
=>> >
=>> >
=>> > RESULTS: Nothing, but at least that socket won't be busting anyones
=>> knuckles. I might go rent a bigger gun (and use a proper impact
=>socket) if I
=>> can find a place that'll rent one.
=>> >
=>> >
=>> >
=>> > Anyways, there you go. I am totally open to any comments,
=>flames, or death
=>> threats regarding this problem. Again, when I say I heated the
=>bolt, I mean
=>> for about 10 minutes with MAPP gas. Perhaps it needs more?
=>(Oxy-Acetylene?)
=>> Thanks man!
=>> >
=>> >
=>> >
=>> > --Dave
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