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Snow/winter tires & driving (long, sorry)



The older Rabbits came with 155/80-13 IIRC.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Ewing" <MK1Scirocco16v@comcast.net>
To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 2:03 AM
Subject: Re: Snow/winter tires & driving (long, sorry)


> I would think that the 175 is about the narrowest you'd want to go unless
> your gonna go with some tractor tire on a truck or something.  Last time I
> saw a 165 (I don't check every tire I see for size) was on the older
> Beetles.  Those things are great in the snow!!
>
> Dave
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dan Smith" <sad_rocc@yahoo.com>
> To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 11:16 PM
> Subject: RE: Snow/winter tires & driving (long, sorry)
>
>
> > Speaking of that, what's the narrowest I can go on a set of 13"
> tarantulas? There's someone in town here selling a set of 4 very good snow
> tires for like $100 but they're 165/70/13. I checked my collection of 13"
> rims and I have 185 and 175 width tires, but no 165.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > ATS - Patrick Bureau <txrocco@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > remember one important thing..
> >
> > summer tire you want wide tires... (more rubber on the asphalt = better
> > traction
> > winter time you want thinner tires..( more rubber = less traction in
snow,
> > thinner tires track better on snow)
> >
> > I am sure someone will disagree here. but this is from 32 years of
Candian
> > winters (ie: average snowfall of over 18 feet/8 months)
> >
> >
> > ATS - Patrick Bureau - txrocco@sbcglobal.net
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> >
> >
> > =>-----Original Message-----
> > =>From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> > =>[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Kent McLean
> > =>Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 5:54 AM
> > =>To: T. Reed; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > =>Subject: Re: Snow/winter tires & driving (long, sorry)
> > =>
> > =>
> > =>T. Reed went on and on about snow tires:
> > =>> So, I'm thinking about buying a set of snow tires and I would
> > =>appreciate
> > =>> some advice from those with experience (both using snow tires and
> > =>driving
> > =>> in the snow)
> > =>
> > =>For occasional snow, you probably don't need real snow
> > =>tires. All-season tires should suffice. Just make sure they
> > =>have lots of tread left. If they're worn down to the warning
> > =>bars, they will be useless in snow.
> > =>
> > =>> What's the deal with studs?
> > =>
> > =>Good on ice, but not really necessary if you slow down
> > =>and drive with care.
> > =>
> > =>> Thinner tires do better in snow, right? But of course have worse
> > =>traction
> > =>> when dry..
> > =>
> > =>Correct. But not really a factor if you stick to standard
> > =>sizes on your rims.
> > =>
> > =>> I've been drifting around some crushed-gravel roads (don't worry,
I'm
> > =>> being extra careful not to harm my 'baby') at high speeds trying to
> > =>get a
> > =>> feel for controlling the car with less than perfect traction.
> > =>
> > =>That's the best thing -- experience. Wait until it snows.
> > =>Then find an empty, unplowed parking lot and drive
> > =>around it. Feel how much traction you have taking
> > =>off from a stop (spin those wheels!). Start off in 2nd
> > =>and feel the difference; you'll probably be less likely
> > =>to spin your wheels. Get up to speed (which on snow
> > =>may be just 10-20 mph) and slam on your brakes;
> > =>you'll skid. Do it again but gently apply your brakes;
> > =>get a feel for when you skid and when you don't.
> > =>Get up to speed again and make a 90 degree turn.
> > =>Did you plow straight when you turned the wheel?
> > =>You carried too much speed into the turn (that is,
> > =>you didn't have enough traction). Try again, but
> > =>make the turn more gentle. Try again, but give it gas
> > =>when you turn. Try again, but give it some brakes
> > =>when you turn. For some real fun, try again but
> > =>pull up on the hand brake (keep the release button
> > =>pressed in) while turning. The rear end should kick
> > =>out and help you complete the turn. Keep playing
> > =>in the snow until you get comfortable with it. Then
> > =>your fears will disappear. The only thing I fear in
> > =>snow is the other idiots on the road.
> > =>
> > =>If you are really paranoid about snow, sell the
> > =>Scirocco and look for an Audi quattro. You should
> > =>be able to pick up a mid-80s 4000 with quattro for
> > =>under $1000. You can window shop here:
> > =>http://www.audifans.com/marketplace/view.php?table=cars&type=true
> > =>And being from the VW family, the mechanicals
> > =>should look familiar, especially the 4-cylinder engine.
> > =>
> > =>Kent
> > =>35 years of driving in snow, with front-engine-rear-drive
> > =>(Austin-Healeys, MGs, Miata), rear-engine-rear-drive
> > =>(air-cooled VW Beetle), front-engine-front-drive (Hondas,
> > =>Fords), and the best for snow, front-engine-all-wheel-drive
> > =>(Audi 200).
> > =>
> > =>
> > =>
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