fuel to the fire: 16v's are BAD!

[aaroncarr at ntlworld.com (Aaron)]

Okay, I'm convinced -- I WANT ONE!

Onlove

Aaron

'83 GTi with not enough valves




On Wednesday, Oct 8, 2003, at 04:26 Europe/London, Jason wrote:

> At 07:56 PM 10/5/2003, Bradley Peet wrote:
>> As you can see, almost everything this guy Robert Collins said is  
>> either
>> severely dated or questionable altogether.  It would be awfully silly  
>> for me
>> to call him up and offer my unsoliticed opinion.
>
> I'd have to agree with Bradley on this one.  But just to add some more  
> fuel to the fire.  (Because it's fun.) :)
>
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> Select quotes from the original Scirocco 16V road test in Car &  
> Driver's 08/1986 issue.
> By Csaba Csere, now the Editor in Chief of same magazine.
>
> "Volkswagen Scirocco 16V. An amazing transformation.  With one fell  
> swoop, the wizards of Wolfsburg have transformed the ho-hum VW  
> Scirocco from an also-ran into a supercoupe to be reckoned with. The  
> principal element in this metamorphosis is a new twin-cam,  
> sixteen-valve, four-cylinder engine..."
>
> "The sixteen-valve Scirocco has enough punch to... provide as much  
> pleasure going up a mountain road as the eight-valve Scirocco can  
> provide going down one. "
>
> "...The 123-hp engine is no less willing at any speed than... the base  
> Scirocco... In fact, we could discern absolutely no penalty or loss of  
> refinement as a result of the additional 33hp."
>
> "The 16V label is this car's ticket from the back of the pack to the  
> thick of the supercoupe battle. "
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>
> Road & Track, 08/86:
> "This Scirocco is quick. How quick? Quicker than a Porsche 944 or  
> Mazda RX-7. It accelerates to 60mph... fully 3.0 seconds quicker than  
> the last Scirocco we tested... This is stunning performance. It does  
> this without excessive noise, with no turbo lag, and with only 1.8  
> liters. "
>
> "To achieve such high peak power, the engine has large enough ports  
> that it's low rpm airflow is nothing to write home about. To  
> compensate, the long intake runners are tuned to provide a ram effect,  
> though there's still just the tiniest flat spot in acceleration off  
> idle.  Obviously this is no ordinary engine."
>
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>
> Motor Trend, 09/85:
> "The new aluminum alloy head has a 20% higher flow rate than its  
> 2-valve counterpart, and the tuned, venturi-type inlet runners ensure  
> optimum delivery of air to the cylinders. The basic design is unique  
> in that it locates the exhaust valves in a vertical plane and inclines  
> the intakes 25' with the spark plug in between. This allows for a  
> relatively narrow head and also yields an internal combustion chamber  
> layout relatively insensitive to detonation. "
> "...there's no question that the 16V goes a long way toward rectifying  
> nearly all of the complaints people raised about the Scirocco's  
> marginal performance."
>
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>
> So now it's 3 versus 1; the Big Three of automotive journalism against  
> some dude who got fired from Drake 20 years ago.
> Anyone care to counter? :-)
>
> Jason
>
>
> PS: For the full articles, see http://www.scirocco16v.org and click on  
> "Press"...
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> 1987 Scirocco 2.0 16v
> 1994 Golf 4dr VR6
> 1990 E30 325iT
> 1997 E39 528iA
>
> http://www.scirocco16v.org
>
>
> "In the olden days, a good flame war could go on for weeks or months,  
> with hot invective flying around like rhetorical shrapnel. It was high  
> art, high entertainment. Though tempers flared hot and professional  
> bridges were sometimes irreparably burned, ultimately it was a game ?  
> a participatory sport in which the audience awarded points for  
> felicitous disparagements, particularly well-worded putdowns, inspired  
> squelches."  -- Christopher Locke, "The Cluetrain Manifesto".
>
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