16V Lifters ticking?

[rhock99 at epix.net (Ryan H)]

No worries, I knew what you were talking about.  
Anyway, the reason I think it's the lifters is because it goes away after a few minutes, almost as if they needed to regain oil pressure or something.  If it was pinging at idle, I'd think it would get much worse at high RPM, but it seems pretty quick/smooth/quiet at high RPM.  I'll let you know the outcome.  Later.

> 
> From: "Dave Ewing" <MK1Scirocco16v@attbi.com>
> Date: 2003/06/19 Thu PM 04:53:06 EDT
> To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> Subject: Re: 16V Lifters ticking?
> 
> Sorry, thought he said cam timing.  Either way, it's not the lifters,
> probably only pinging from advancing too much.  Sorry Ryan, I really thought
> you said cam timing.  Hope I didn't cause you any unnecessary worry!!
> 
> Dave
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jason" <jason@scirocco.org>
> To: "Dave Ewing" <MK1Scirocco16v@attbi.com>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 12:26 PM
> Subject: Re: 16V Lifters ticking?
> 
> 
> > Wait -- valves tapping the pistons?!  All he did was change ignition
> > timing, not cam timing!
> >
> > Changing ignition timing won't have any effect on cam timing!  Don't
> > worry... no threat of valves contacting pistons there.
> >
> > Lifters and ignition timing shouldn't be related at all.  Are you sure
> it's
> > lifters?  It could be that you have advanced the ignition so far that it's
> > firing before the intake valve closes completely (and/or before TDC) and
> > you're hearing that detonation.  I'd do what you said - put it back to
> > stock 6' - 8'  BDTC timing.  That shouldn't have any effect on lifters,
> but
> > if the noise stops, you probably were hearing detonation...
> >
> > Jason
> >
> >
> > At 03:12 PM 6/19/2003, Dave Ewing wrote:
> > >Uh, that wouldn't be clicking lifters, it would be valves tagging the
> > >pistons.  I've seen this done on a car that came into the shop once and
> all
> > >we did is adjust the cam timing back a little with no adverse effects but
> > >you definately pushing the envelope advancing that much!!
> > >
> > >Dave
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Ryan H" <rhock99@epix.net>
> > >To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > >Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 11:59 AM
> > >Subject: 16V Lifters ticking?
> > >
> > >
> > > > I over-advanced my ignition timing by a few degrees the other day, and
> my
> > >lifters started making a ticking noise when I start the car for a few
> > >minutes.  Why would advancing the ignition timing make the lifters tick?
> Or
> > >is it completely unrelated?  I'm gonna set it back tonight to see if they
> > >still tick, but I just wanted to get anyone's input first.  Thanks.
> > > >
> > > >
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