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flex-a-lite wiring help



Ok, I did that. Still no go. So Im certain it has to be the OEM relay. 
I'll try that out once I get it. If that doesn't do it.....


On Tuesday, August 19, 2003, at 10:00 AM, ATS - Patrick Bureau wrote:

> yes the original brown wire coming from the OEM relay must be 
> grounded, I
> grounded the red wires of the dual fan together with the browm wire of 
> the
> oem setup back to the battery.
>
>
> ATS - Patrick Bureau - txrocco@sbcglobal.net
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>
> =>-----Original Message-----
> =>From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> =>[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Chris Venturini
> =>Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 4:04 PM
> =>To: ATS - Patrick Bureau
> =>Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> =>Subject: Re: flex-a-lite wiring help
> =>
> =>
> =>*sigh*
> =>
> =>ok, Round 3
> =>
> =>Today's the day...or maybe tomarrow.
> =>
> =>So I touched the wires to the battery and the fans work great! But 
> when
> =>I hook it all back up I still get nothing. So now its down to 3
> =>things...i think. 1.) The OEM relay. Where can i find this, and how 
> do
> =>I test it/fix it? 2.) The original brown fan wire. Its just hanging
> =>there. Is that right? 3.)I guess I could have a bad ground??
> =>
> =>Keep in mind Im not good at this stuff, yet. Im just an animator, not
> =>an electrician/mechanic. So talk to me like Im 12 or something.
> =>
> =>-chris
> =>
> =>On Friday, August 15, 2003, at 06:08 AM, ATS - Patrick Bureau wrote:
> =>
> =>> if you had the twi black wire (shown as brown on the diagram) to
> =>> seperate
> =>> relays then you made the mistake of not reading the diagram 
> properly.
> =>> both wires must be be together, and uyou run 2 leads from each port
> =>> #87 on
> =>> each relays, and attch them together then together with the black 
> wire.
> =>> not seperation at all. the diagram is clear and consice, make sure 
> your
> =>> wires at properly wires to the right connection, if in doubt there
> =>> could be
> =>> a chance you have a bad fan, touch the battery poles with your fan
> =>> wires...
> =>> you will see if it "turbines" or not (youll know what I mean by
> =>> turbine when
> =>> you test it)
> =>>
> =>> Once you have the wirring correctly done, and you get the same 
> result,
> =>> I
> =>> would check the OEM relay where the power is coming from.
> =>>
> =>> ATS - Patrick Bureau - txrocco@sbcglobal.net
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> =>>
> =>> =>-----Original Message-----
> =>> =>From: Chris Venturini [mailto:cventuri@digipen.edu]
> =>> =>Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 11:14 PM
> =>> =>To: ATS - Patrick Bureau
> =>> =>Cc: Ryan H; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> =>> =>Subject: Re: flex-a-lite wiring help
> =>> =>
> =>> =>
> =>> =>ok, round 2.
> =>> =>
> =>> =>I havent gotten much chance to work on this since i get home from
> =>> work
> =>> =>at dusk, and I have no garage/lights. But I did manage to get it
> =>> "test"
> =>> =>wired. But its still not workin. I got the 2 relays and they are 
> all
> =>> =>wired up like it shows in the diagram here
> =>> =><http://home.epix.net/~rhock99/pics/fan7.jpg> nothin. This of 
> course
> =>> =>after I let it warm up and get to high temp. Then I started 
> messin
> =>> =>around just trying to get a spark or some sign of current, and i
> =>> =>attached the original brown vw fan wire to the high speed relay 
> prong
> =>> =>36 (where the red/white wire was) and one fan came on....kinda. 
> it
> =>> was
> =>> =>very weak. Anyways, thats the best I could do tonight....and 
> here i
> =>> am
> =>> =>once again confused. Looking at the diagram again, i know for 
> sure i
> =>> =>had it all wired right, except for the two black flex-a-lite 
> wires. I
> =>> =>had them each go to seperate relays. Im assuming thats wrong? 
> What
> =>> =>other reason might there be for it not working, other than my
> =>> stupidity?
> =>> =>
> =>> =>
> =>> =>
> =>> =>On Sunday, August 10, 2003, at 05:08 AM, ATS - Patrick Bureau 
> wrote:
> =>> =>
> =>> =>> well if you are not using relays, the red wires from the fan 
> are
> =>> to be
> =>> =>> connected to a ground source, the brown wires are to be 
> connected
> =>> to
> =>> =>> the low
> =>> =>> speed wire, (red/black) and the red/white well it does nothing
> =>> because
> =>> =>> your
> =>> =>> not using relays, plug it, I had mine setup like this for 2 
> years
> =>> =>> without a
> =>> =>> problem, but if your  radiator (or collant system) is not super
> =>> clean,
> =>> =>> squeaky clean, you will get maybe issues when you need high 
> speed,
> =>> one
> =>> =>> of
> =>> =>> the worries though never happened to me because my coolant 
> system
> =>> was
> =>> =>> revamped anyways.
> =>> =>>
> =>> =>> ATS - Patrick Bureau - txrocco@sbcglobal.net
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> =>> =>>
> =>> =>>
> =>> =>> =>-----Original Message-----
> =>> =>> =>From: Chris Venturini [mailto:cventuri@digipen.edu]
> =>> =>> =>Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 12:27 AM
> =>> =>> =>To: Ryan H
> =>> =>> =>Cc: ATS - Patrick Bureau; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> =>> =>> =>Subject: Re: flex-a-lite wiring help
> =>> =>> =>
> =>> =>> =>
> =>> =>> =>Ok, yeah Im confused. I put the two red fan wires together 
> with
> =>> the
> =>> =>> =>brown. And the two black fan wires with the red/white? and 
> the
> =>> =>> =>red/black does what? its just hangin there right now. I 
> guess i
> =>> just
> =>> =>> =>want the two fans to come on at the same time.
> =>> =>> =>
> =>> =>> =>
> =>> =>> =>
> =>> =>> =>
> =>> =>> =>On Saturday, August 9, 2003, at 09:24 PM, Ryan H wrote:
> =>> =>> =>
> =>> =>> =>> Awesome job on hiding the relays Patrick, I shoulda 
> thought of
> =>> =>> that!
> =>> =>> =>> Do you mind if I put that pic up on my tech note?  Anyway, 
> for
> =>> the
> =>> =>> =>> tech note, you need to type the full address or else it 
> won't
> =>> let
> =>> =>> you
> =>> =>> =>> in: http://home.epix.net/~rhock99/scirocco.htm
> =>> =>> =>> Chris, whichever way you decide to do the wiring, ask first
> =>> and I'm
> =>> =>> =>> sure you'll get some good ideas and detailed how-tos.  
> Later!
> =>> =>> =>>
> =>> =>> =>>>
> =>> =>> =>>> From: "ATS - Patrick Bureau" <txrocco@sbcglobal.net>
> =>> =>> =>>> Date: 2003/08/09 Sat PM 09:45:42 EDT
> =>> =>> =>>> To: "Chris Venturini" <cventuri@digipen.edu>,
> =>> =>> =>>> 	<Scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> =>> =>> =>>> Subject: RE: flex-a-lite wiring help
> =>> =>> =>>>
> =>> =>> =>>> here is how I did mine, taking the idea from someone 
> else.. (I
> =>> =>> take no
> =>> =>> =>>> credit on this mod)
> =>> =>> =>>> actually the mod came from another scirocco owner =>  R y 
> a n
> =>> =>> H o
> =>> =>> =>>> c k e n
> =>> =>> =>>> b u r y  , and this is tech note web site
> =>> =>> =>>> <http://home.epix.net/~rhock99/>
> =>> =>> =>>> address, anyay here is the the diagram is the one I used, 
> and
> =>> it
> =>> =>> works
> =>> =>> =>>> perfect
> =>> <http://longcoeur.com/scirocco/various/radfan/fan7.jpg>,
> =>> =>> this
> =>> =>> =>>> is
> =>> =>> =>>> what it looks like. the 2 relays hold unto the fan with
> =>> (because
> =>> =>> they
> =>> =>> =>>> came
> =>> =>> =>>> with a single block unit with 2 relays on them) a single 
> tie
> =>> wrap
> =>> =>> =>>> passing
> =>> =>> =>>> throught the casing of the fan , so the relay are hidden
> =>> inside
> =>> =>> the
> =>> =>> =>>> fan as
> =>> =>> =>>> shown by this image
> =>> =>> =>>> 
> <http://longcoeur.com/scirocco/various/radfan/P5100017.JPG>.
> =>> =>> =>>>
> =>> =>> =>>>
> =>> =>> =>>> ATS - Patrick Bureau - txrocco@sbcglobal.net
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> =>> =>> =>>>
> =>> =>> =>>>
> =>> =>> =>>> =>-----Original Message-----
> =>> =>> =>>> =>From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> =>> =>> =>>> =>[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of 
> Chris
> =>> =>> Venturini
> =>> =>> =>>> =>Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 3:58 PM
> =>> =>> =>>> =>To: Scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> =>> =>> =>>> =>Subject: flex-a-lite wiring help
> =>> =>> =>>> =>
> =>> =>> =>>> =>
> =>> =>> =>>> =>I need help wiring a flex-a-lite fan. Everywhere I read
> =>> about it
> =>> =>> =>>> doesnt
> =>> =>> =>>> =>tell you how to do it completely. Or maybe Im just too
> =>> stupid to
> =>> =>> =>>> =>understand it. Ive got(on the fans) 2 black, and 2 red. 
> Then
> =>> =>> the car
> =>> =>> =>>> =>has a brown, a red/white, and a red/black. Can anyone 
> walk
> =>> me
> =>> =>> =>>> through
> =>> =>> =>>> =>this?
> =>> =>> =>>> =>
> =>> =>> =>>> =>
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