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Goodyear F1, Protenza S-03 - anybody have an opinion?



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I have to agree I have 15/205/V rated Escta 712's and they grip lilek there is no tomorow, wet or dry...I like them alot on my rocco, as a side not I have yokohama's on the daily driver and though they are H rated (I cruise this car) they are quite good under wet (and I am talking texas blasting rain with 1/2" running on the road... never feels like ya floating.

"Tyler P." <ty@festf.org> wrote:Well, I have the 712's on my rocco and really like them. These tires will
actually be for my bmw and will be 17's. I haven't seen the dunlop sp8000
in the size that I'm looking for (235/45/17) and the sp9000 and sp8080e have
lower ratings on tirerack so I really haven't looked at them. Also, some of
the reviews of the Goodyear f1's were compared to the dunlop sp8000 and they
said they were far better than dunlop. 

This will be a daily driver, mostly freeway, in the rainy pacific norwest
(seattle area). Frankly, from everything I look at the Goodyears are
looking really promising but I don't know if they are really worth 200 extra
when I know the 712's and es100's are already great performing tires and are
about $90-100 for my size.

Wet traction is very important to me. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Erik Seo [mailto:erik@yoshimedia.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 3:16 PM
To: Joe Doty; Tyler P.; List (E-mail)
Subject: RE: Goodyear F1, Protenza S-03 - anybody have an opinion? 


If you are looking for auto-x tires, Falken Azenis have just about the 
most grip of anything out there (not r-compound). I don't like the 
turn-in compared to the Ecsta 712's, but the overall grip is way better.

Of course if it's just for driving around town you could probably find 
something that does better in the rain and that doesn't wear so fast.

should find 2005/550/15's for about $70 a tire @ discounttiredirect.com 
or at vulcantire.com

> How about Dunlop SP8000s? They are about $75/tire in a 195/50/15. 
Several of my friends have/do use them, and some people on the list do 
too.
> 
> Joe Doty
> IT/Development
> joe@lcnetwork.com 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tyler P. [mailto:ty@festf.org] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 2:50 PM
> To: List (E-mail)
> Subject: Goodyear F1, Protenza S-03 - anybody have an opinion? 
> 
> I need to replace some tires.  Currently have a car running Kuhmo 
ecsta 712s and thought I would try Yoko ES100 to compare but two models 
listed in the subject line aren't much more and have superior ratings 
on tirerack.  Anybody have an opion on wether they are worth the extra 
cash ($50-$60 more per tire) or any experiance with them.   I'm not 
sure what to get now.  If it were merly cosmetic I would go for the 
Yoko's but they are all cool looking and I just want to get the best 
performer.  
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<DIV>I have to agree I have 15/205/V rated Escta 712's and they grip lilek there is no tomorow, wet or dry...I like them alot on my rocco, as a side not I have yokohama's on the daily driver and though they are H rated (I cruise this car) they are quite good under wet (and I am talking texas blasting rain with 1/2" running on the road... never feels like ya floating.<BR><BR><B><I>"Tyler P." &lt;ty@festf.org&gt;</I></B> wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Well, I have the 712's on my rocco and really like them. These tires will<BR>actually be for my bmw and will be 17's. I haven't seen the dunlop sp8000<BR>in the size that I'm looking for (235/45/17) and the sp9000 and sp8080e have<BR>lower ratings on tirerack so I really haven't looked at them. Also, some of<BR>the reviews of the Goodyear f1's were compared to the dunlop sp8000 and they<BR>said they were far better than dunlop. <BR><BR>This will be a daily driver, mostly freeway, in the rainy pacific norwest<BR>(seattle area). Frankly, from everything I look at the Goodyears are<BR>looking really promising but I don't know if they are really worth 200 extra<BR>when I know the 712's and es100's are already great performing tires and are<BR>about $90-100 for my size.<BR><BR>Wet traction is very important to me. <BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: Erik Seo [mailto:erik@yoshimedia.com]<BR>Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 3:16 PM<BR>To: Joe Doty; Tyler P.; List (E-mail)<BR>Subject: RE: Goodyear F1, Protenza S-03 - anybody have an opinion? <BR><BR><BR>If you are looking for auto-x tires, Falken Azenis have just about the <BR>most grip of anything out there (not r-compound). I don't like the <BR>turn-in compared to the Ecsta 712's, but the overall grip is way better.<BR><BR>Of course if it's just for driving around town you could probably find <BR>something that does better in the rain and that doesn't wear so fast.<BR><BR>should find 2005/550/15's for about $70 a tire @ discounttiredirect.com <BR>or at vulcantire.com<BR><BR>&gt; How about Dunlop SP8000s? They are about $75/tire in a 195/50/15. <BR>Several of my friends have/do use them, and some people on the list do <BR>too.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Joe Doty<BR>&gt; IT/Development<BR>&gt; joe@lcnetwork.com <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; -----Original Message-----<BR>&gt; From: Tyler P. [mailto:ty@festf.org] <BR>&gt; Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 2:50 PM<BR>&gt; To: List (E-mail)<BR>&gt; Subject: Goodyear F1, Protenza S-03 - anybody have an opinion? <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I need to replace some tires.&nbsp; Currently have a car running Kuhmo <BR>ecsta 712s and thought I would try Yoko ES100 to compare but two models <BR>listed in the subject line aren't much more and have superior ratings <BR>on tirerack.&nbsp; Anybody have an opion on wether they are worth the extra <BR>cash ($50-$60 more per tire) or any experiance with them.&nbsp;&nbsp; I'm not <BR>sure what to get now.&nbsp; If it were merly cosmetic I would go for the <BR>Yoko's but they are all cool looking and I just want to get the best <BR>performer.&nbsp; <BR>&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; __________________&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; _-<BR>_&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>&gt; Tyler J Pease -- - -- -&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \________________|)____.---'---`---<BR>.____&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>&gt; Network Administrator -- -&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ||&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \----._________.----<BR>/&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>&gt; Compliance Services Intl. -- -- --&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ||&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; / ,'&nbsp;&nbsp; `---<BR>'&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>&gt; Phone: (253) 272-6345&nbsp; - - -- -- --&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; __||_,--'&nbsp; -<BR>._&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>&gt; www.complianceservices.com&nbsp; --- - --&nbsp; /___&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ||(-<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>&gt; -- - --- -- -- -- -- -- - -- - -- -- -&nbsp; `---._____-<BR>'&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>&gt; &nbsp;<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; _______________________________________________<BR>&gt; Scirocco-l mailing list<BR>&gt; Scirocco-l@scirocco.org<BR>&gt; http://neubayern.net/mailman/listinfo/scirocco-l<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR><BR>-- <BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Scirocco-l mailing list<BR>Scirocco-l@scirocco.org<BR>http://neubayern.net/mailman/listinfo/scirocco-l</BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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