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The manual rack is the same part number, the difference is the =
intermediate shaft (remember vw calls this the driveshaft).

Brian
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Ryan H=20
  To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:52 PM
  Subject: Re: manual steering rack q's...


  Brian, how about the 84-88 Sciroccos?  Do they use the same part =
number for manual racks?

  Too much conflicting info!

  >=20
  > From: Brian Wagner <brian_wagner@sbcglobal.net>
  > Date: 2002/11/12 Tue PM 09:12:37 EST
  > To: Josh20V <mkii@nycap.rr.com>,  Ryan H <rhock99@epix.net>,=20
  >   scirocco-l@scirocco.org
  > Subject: Re: manual steering rack q's...
  >=20
  >=20
  > Are you sure about that, the Scirocco and the Rabbit/Golf use the =
same rack part number (VW # 171419063) from 77 to 84 according to the =
ETKA. hmmmm
  > Brian
  >  Josh20V <mkii@nycap.rr.com> wrote:the rabbit one will not work =
(this is from Potter and others), it has to be
  > from a Scirocco.........
  >=20
  > Josh Able
  > www.JsHouseOfEuro.com
  >=20
  > brand new euro bumpers!!
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: "Ryan H"=20
  > To:=20
  > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:55 PM
  > Subject: Re: manual steering rack q's...
  >=20
  >=20
  > > Now I'm just really confused. OK, lemme make this simple: I have a =
16v
  > Scirocco. I have a complete manual steering rack (inner/outer tie =
rod ends
  > + boots) and the u-joint for the steering column both from a Rabbit. =
Can I
  > put the Rabbit rack/u-joint into the Scirocco without changing =
anything
  > else? Has anyone done this for sure?
  > >
  > > PS - I interpret steering knuckles as the part on the hub where =
the tie
  > rod ends connect to it. Isn't that what a steering knuckle really =
is?
  > >
  > > >
  > > > From: thescirocco=20
  > > > Date: 2002/11/12 Tue PM 08:38:48 EST
  > > > To: rhock99@epix.net
  > > > CC: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
  > > > Subject: Re:Re: manual steering knuckle needed AKA steering =
column U
  > joint
  > > >
  > > > ---------- Ryan H writes:
  > > > Aren't the steering knuckles the same for manual vs. power =
steering?
  > And wouldn't a rabbit knuckle work? I just posted an ongoing thread =
about
  > manual steering conversion, and the consensus was that the knuckles =
are the
  > same for power or manual racks, and that a rabbit unit would work. =
Now I'm
  > confused, Josh.
  > > >
  > > > Yes, but Josh is talking about the steering column U joint...
  > > >
  > > >
  > > > PLEASE REPLY TO: peterSPAM@thescirocco.com hold the SPAM and you =
have my
  > new e-mail address.[mailto:peterSPAM@thescirocco.com]
  > > > Please don't reply to the Juno account, and if you must - don't =
expect a
  > reply.
  > > >
  > > >
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  > > I'll fix my car, even if I have to replace every part in it... and =
since
  > the problem will be the last part I replace, I'll have a brand new =
car when
  > I'm done!
  > >
  > >
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  Are you sure about that, the Scirocco and the Rabbit/Golf use the same =
rack part number (VW # 171419063) from 77 to 84 according to the ETKA. =
hmmmm=20

  Brian=20

   Josh20V <mkii@nycap.rr.com> wrote:=20

    the rabbit one will not work (this is from Potter and others), it =
has to be
    from a Scirocco.........

    Josh Able
    www.JsHouseOfEuro.com

    brand new euro bumpers!!
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Ryan H"=20
    To:=20
    Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:55 PM
    Subject: Re: manual steering rack q's...


    > Now I'm just really confused. OK, lemme make this simple: I have a =
16v
    Scirocco. I have a complete manual steering rack (inner/outer tie =
rod ends
    + boots) and the u-joint for the steering column both from a Rabbit. =
Can I
    put the Rabbit rack/u-joint into the Scirocco without changing =
anything
    else? Has anyone done this for sure?
    >
    > PS - I interpret steering knuckles as the part on the hub where =
the tie
    rod ends connect to it. Isn't that what a steering knuckle really =
is?
    >
    >! ; >
    > > From: thescirocco=20
    > > Date: 2002/11/12 Tue PM 08:38:48 EST
    > > To: rhock99@epix.net
    > > CC: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
    > > Subject: Re:Re: manual steering knuckle needed AKA steering =
column U
    joint
    > >
    > > ---------- Ryan H writes:
    > > Aren't the steering knuckles the same for manual vs. power =
steering?
    And wouldn't a rabbit knuckle work? I just posted an ongoing thread =
about
    manual steering conversion, and the consensus was that the knuckles =
are the
    same for power or manual racks, and that a rabbit unit would work. =
Now I'm
    confused, Josh.
    > >
    > > Yes, but Josh is talking about the steering column U joint...
    > >
    > >
    > > PLEASE REPLY TO: peterSPAM@thescirocco.com hold the SPAM and you =
have my
    new e-mail address.[mailto:peterSPAM@thescirocco.com]
    > > Please don't reply to the Juno accoun! t, and if you must - =
don't expect a
    reply.
    > >
    > >
    > > ________________________________________________________________
    > > Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today
    > > Only $9.95 per month!
    > > Visit www.juno.com
    > >
    >
    > ----------------------
    > I'll fix my car, even if I have to replace every part in it... and =
since
    the problem will be the last part I replace, I'll have a brand new =
car when
    I'm done!
    >
    >
    > _______________________________________________
    > Scirocco-l mailing list
    > Scirocco-l@scirocco.org
    > http://neubayern.net/mailman/listinfo/scirocco-l
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The manual rack is the same part =
number, the=20
difference is the intermediate shaft (remember vw calls this the=20
driveshaft).</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Drhock99@epix.net href=3D"mailto:rhock99@epix.net";>Ryan =
H</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dscirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
  href=3D"mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org";>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A> =
</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 12, =
2002 8:52=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: manual steering =
rack=20
  q's...</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Brian, how about the 84-88 Sciroccos?&nbsp; Do they use =
the=20
  same part number for manual racks?<BR><BR>Too much conflicting=20
  info!<BR><BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; From: Brian Wagner &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:brian_wagner@sbcglobal.net";>brian_wagner@sbcglobal.net</A>=
&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
  Date: 2002/11/12 Tue PM 09:12:37 EST<BR>&gt; To: Josh20V &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:mkii@nycap.rr.com";>mkii@nycap.rr.com</A>&gt;,&nbsp; =
Ryan H &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:rhock99@epix.net";>rhock99@epix.net</A>&gt;, =
<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  <A =
href=3D"mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org";>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A><BR>&g=
t;=20
  Subject: Re: manual steering rack q's...<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Are =
you=20
  sure about that, the Scirocco and the Rabbit/Golf use the same rack =
part=20
  number (VW # 171419063) from 77 to 84 according to the ETKA. =
hmmmm<BR>&gt;=20
  Brian<BR>&gt;&nbsp; Josh20V &lt;mkii@nycap.rr.com&gt; wrote:the rabbit =
one=20
  will not work (this is from Potter and others), it has to be<BR>&gt; =
from a=20
  Scirocco.........<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Josh Able<BR>&gt;=20
  www.JsHouseOfEuro.com<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; brand new euro =
bumpers!!<BR>&gt; -----=20
  Original Message -----<BR>&gt; From: "Ryan H" <BR>&gt; To: <BR>&gt; =
Sent:=20
  Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:55 PM<BR>&gt; Subject: Re: manual =
steering rack=20
  q's...<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; Now I'm just really confused. =
OK, lemme=20
  make this simple: I have a 16v<BR>&gt; Scirocco. I have a complete =
manual=20
  steering rack (inner/outer tie rod ends<BR>&gt; + boots) and the =
u-joint for=20
  the steering column both from a Rabbit. Can I<BR>&gt; put the Rabbit=20
  rack/u-joint into the Scirocco without changing anything<BR>&gt; else? =
Has=20
  anyone done this for sure?<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; PS - I interpret =
steering=20
  knuckles as the part on the hub where the tie<BR>&gt; rod ends connect =
to it.=20
  Isn't that what a steering knuckle really is?<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; =
&gt;=20
  &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; From: thescirocco <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Date: =
2002/11/12=20
  Tue PM 08:38:48 EST<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; To: rhock99@epix.net<BR>&gt; =
&gt; &gt;=20
  CC: scirocco-l@scirocco.org<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: Re:Re: manual =
steering=20
  knuckle needed AKA steering column U<BR>&gt; joint<BR>&gt; &gt; =
&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
  &gt; &gt; ---------- Ryan H writes:<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Aren't the =
steering=20
  knuckles the same for manual vs. power steering?<BR>&gt; And wouldn't =
a rabbit=20
  knuckle work? I just posted an ongoing thread about<BR>&gt; manual =
steering=20
  conversion, and the consensus was that the knuckles are the<BR>&gt; =
same for=20
  power or manual racks, and that a rabbit unit would work. Now =
I'm<BR>&gt;=20
  confused, Josh.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Yes, but Josh is =
talking=20
  about the steering column U joint...<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
  &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; PLEASE REPLY TO: peterSPAM@thescirocco.com hold =
the=20
  SPAM and you have my<BR>&gt; new e-mail=20
  address.[mailto:peterSPAM@thescirocco.com]<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Please =
don't=20
  reply to the Juno account, and if you must - don't expect a<BR>&gt;=20
  reply.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;=20
  =
________________________________________________________________<BR>&gt; =
&gt;=20
  &gt; Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; =
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  $9.95 per month!<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Visit www.juno.com<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
  &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; ----------------------<BR>&gt; &gt; =
I'll fix my=20
  car, even if I have to replace every part in it... and since<BR>&gt; =
the=20
  problem will be the last part I replace, I'll have a brand new car=20
  when<BR>&gt; I'm done!<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
  _______________________________________________<BR>&gt; &gt; =
Scirocco-l=20
  mailing list<BR>&gt; &gt; Scirocco-l@scirocco.org<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
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  <P></P>
  <P>Are you sure about that, the Scirocco and the Rabbit/Golf use the =
same rack=20
  part number (VW # 171419063) from 77 to 84 according to the ETKA. =
hmmmm=20
  <P>Brian=20
  <P>&nbsp;<B><I>Josh20V &lt;mkii@nycap.rr.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:=20
  <BLOCKQUOTE=20
  style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px =
solid">the=20
    rabbit one will not work (this is from Potter and others), it has to =

    be<BR>from a Scirocco.........<BR><BR>Josh=20
    Able<BR>www.JsHouseOfEuro.com<BR><BR>brand new euro =
bumpers!!<BR>-----=20
    Original Message -----<BR>From: "Ryan H" <RHOCK99@EPIX.NET><BR>To:=20
    <SCIROCCO-L@SCIROCCO.ORG><BR>Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:55=20
    PM<BR>Subject: Re: manual steering rack q's...<BR><BR><BR>&gt; Now =
I'm just=20
    really confused. OK, lemme make this simple: I have a =
16v<BR>Scirocco. I=20
    have a complete manual steering rack (inner/outer tie rod ends<BR>+ =
boots)=20
    and the u-joint for the steering column both from a Rabbit. Can =
I<BR>put the=20
    Rabbit rack/u-joint into the Scirocco without changing =
anything<BR>else? Has=20
    anyone done this for sure?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; PS - I interpret steering =

    knuckles as the part on the hub where the tie<BR>rod ends connect to =
it.=20
    Isn't that what a steering knuckle really is?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;! ;=20
    &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; From: thescirocco <THESCIROCCO@JUNO.COM><BR>&gt; =
&gt;=20
    Date: 2002/11/12 Tue PM 08:38:48 EST<BR>&gt; &gt; To:=20
    rhock99@epix.net<BR>&gt; &gt; CC: scirocco-l@scirocco.org<BR>&gt; =
&gt;=20
    Subject: Re:Re: manual steering knuckle needed AKA steering column=20
    U<BR>joint<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; ---------- Ryan H=20
    <RHOCK99@EPIX.NET>writes:<BR>&gt; &gt; Aren't the steering knuckles =
the same=20
    for manual vs. power steering?<BR>And wouldn't a rabbit knuckle =
work? I just=20
    posted an ongoing thread about<BR>manual steering conversion, and =
the=20
    consensus was that the knuckles are the<BR>same for power or manual =
racks,=20
    and that a rabbit unit would work. Now I'm<BR>confused, =
Josh.<BR>&gt;=20
    &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Yes, but Josh is talking about the steering column =
U=20
    joint...<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; PLEASE REPLY TO:=20
    peterSPAM@thescirocco.com hold the SPAM and you have my<BR>new =
e-mail=20
    address.[mailto:peterSPAM@thescirocco.com]<BR>&gt; &gt; Please don't =
reply=20
    to the Juno accoun! t, and if you must - don't expect =
a<BR>reply.<BR>&gt;=20
    &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
    =
________________________________________________________________<BR>&gt; =

    &gt; Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today<BR>&gt; &gt; =
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    ----------------------<BR>&gt; I'll fix my car, even if I have to =
replace=20
    every part in it... and since<BR>the problem will be the last part I =

    replace, I'll have a brand new car when<BR>I'm =
done!<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
    _______________________________________________<BR>&gt; Scirocco-l =
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