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Knock Sensor Q



Maybe I missed something, but Scirocco 8v's don't have knock boxes.
	-Josiah


On Thu, 23 May 2002, ATS - Patrick Bureau wrote:

> you know I read your replies 3 times... and you make no sense what so ever.
> 
> 1. you are saying that the 8v and 16v knock box are the same (or you don't
> know)
> 2. then you say the relay has nothing to do with it, but the cut off is
> controlled by the knock box
> 
> now if the knock boxes are the same and the relays are not the controlling
> device, how does the
> knock box know its controlling an 8v (6800Rpm) or 16v engine (7200 rpm) and
> adjust itself to the proper engine?
> 
> what I want to know is
> what controls the rev limitation (knock box? relay?) if knock box, then
> logic dictates that an 8v and 16v knock box would be different JUST because
> they rev limitator are set different  (no matter if they are wired the same)
> 
> and btw.. I am talking about SCIROCCO here not A2.
> 
> 
> 
> ==========================================
> ATS - Patrick Bureau
> 1985 8v **Planning 3A/JH  Upgrade**
> 1988 16v ** FOR SALE : 1500.00$ **
> Web Site : http://longcoeur.com/scirocco
> 
> 
> =>-----Original Message-----
> =>From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org
> =>[mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Jonas K.
> =>Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 12:47 PM
> =>To: ATS - Patrick Bureau; scirocco list; Chris DeLong
> =>Subject: Re: Knock Sensor Q
> =>
> =>
> =>I'll jump in here to see if I can help,
> =>
> =>On 5/21/02 8:35 AM, "ATS - Patrick Bureau" <pbureau@attbi.com> wrote:
> =>>
> =>> 1. so you are saying that a 8v and 16v knock box are the same
> =>identical box?
> =>
> =>I've got no friggin clue (I know, lots of help...). Simple to figure out
> =>though. Someone with a A2 bentley needs just look at the 8v vs 16v knock
> =>sensor connections. If they match up, you're good to go. I would think
> =>they're the same.
> =>
> =>> 2. get a 16v fuel relay because it runs up to 7200
> =>
> =>AFAIK the actual relay has nothing to do with it. The Knock box has an
> =>output to trigger the relay, similar as how the coil would do for
> =>A1's. Once
> =>the RPM's have exceeded a preset value (7200 for 16v and 6k-something for
> =>8v) then the box shuts off fuel through the FPR.
> =>
> =>> 3. because I have an 85, I will need to cut lead 11 to prevent cut off @
> =>> 6800 EVEN if I use a 16v FP relay ?
> =>
> =>No, your 85 is not like the 85 system he refers to. He's talking about the
> =>GTI knock box, where you can cut a wire to bump up the rev limiter.
> =>Otherwise the fun stops at around 6k-even.
> =>
> =>To install a knock system in your 85 scirocco, you'll want to leave your
> =>original fuel pump relay, and now you won't have a rev-limiter. Simple as
> =>that. Theres a neat wiring diagram at
> =><http://www.volkswagen.org/EngineSwap/Knock%20Sensor%20Diagram%20II.JPG>
> =>Notice that there's no connection to the FPR.
> =>
> =>HTH,
> =>Jonas
> =>
> =>
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