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The marketing on e-bay of the exhaust cams, no matter how it is worded is
simply marketing!  No different than selling of A1 VW fuel pumps as racing
pumps on e-bay to the Honda crowd.

It's a buyer beware market in my mind.  If the vortex type fools are stupid
enough to pay $40 shipping plus whatever the cam sells for, then so be it.

.02

BcH
78 MkI Ragtop ABA 16vT boxes of parts


> -----Original Message-----
> From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org
> [mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Allyn
> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 6:00 PM
> To: the hitman; onesixv@juno.com
> Cc: farrenator@yahoo.com; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> Subject: Re: ebay scam
>
>
> especially since the euro exh cam is the same profile as the
> u.s. one...
> Al
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "the hitman" <vwscir88@hotmail.com>
> To: <onesixv@juno.com>
> Cc: <farrenator@yahoo.com>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 6:44 PM
> Subject: Re: ebay scam
>
>
> > don't get me wrong, i would never recommend or buy  or sell
> a "euro" exhaust
> > cam. i'm just saying that if you read the text of his auction, and
> > knowing/dealt with steffan before, his intentions are not
> to rip anyone off.
> >
> >
> > >From: Eric L Ellis <onesixv@juno.com>
> > >To: vwscir88@hotmail.com
> > >CC: farrenator@yahoo.com, scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > >Subject: Re: ebay scam
> > >Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:30:17 -0400
> > >
> > >Yes, he posts quite often...to sell.  I personally don't
> care for the
> > >selling of the "Euro Exhaust Cam".  Granted, he implies no
> gains but the
> > >those who don't know, it can appear that it's an upgrade.  Not to
> > >mention, $40.00 shipping?
> > >
> > >EE
> > >"Good, bad...I'm the guy with the gun!"
> > >http://www.geocities.com/blitzkrieg16v
> > >AOL IM:  OneSixV
> > >http://www.geocities.com/onesixv
> > >
> > >On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:01:04 -0400 "the hitman"
> <vwscir88@hotmail.com>
> > >writes:
> > > > that's steffan. i think you must be thinking about
> someone else, i've
> > > > had
> > > > nothing but good dealings with steffan. i believe he
> does post to
> > > > the list
> > > > occasionally too.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: Victor Farren <farrenator@yahoo.com>
> > > > >To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > > >Subject: ebay scam
> > > > >Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:44:41 -0700 (PDT)
> > > > >
> > > > >anyone know who this clown is?  He is trying to sell a
> > > > >16v Euro 'exhaust' cam.  Talk about some bull$hit.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item
> =1842783455
> > > > >
> > > > >This isn't the same clown who was ripping people off
> > > > >about 6 months back is it?  Sorry, but I can't
> > > > >remember his name, but he changed his email a couple
> > > > >of times because someone on the list was tracking him
> > > > >and giving him $hit for being a scam artist.  Some of
> > > > >the listers who have been around a while might
> > > > >remember.
> > > > >
> > > > >Victor
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>The marketing on e-bay of the exhaust cams, no matter =
how it is worded is simply marketing!&nbsp; No different than selling of =
A1 VW fuel pumps as racing pumps on e-bay to the Honda crowd.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>It's a buyer beware market in my mind.&nbsp; If the =
vortex type fools are stupid enough to pay $40 shipping plus whatever =
the cam sells for, then so be it.&nbsp; </FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>.02</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>BcH</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>78 MkI Ragtop ABA 16vT boxes of parts</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; -----Original Message-----</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org";>mailto:scirocco-l-admin@sci=
rocco.org</A>]On Behalf Of Allyn</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 6:00 PM</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; To: the hitman; onesixv@juno.com</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Cc: farrenator@yahoo.com; =
scirocco-l@scirocco.org</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Subject: Re: ebay scam</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; especially since the euro exh cam is the same =
profile as the </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; u.s. one...</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Al</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; ----- Original Message ----- </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; From: &quot;the hitman&quot; =
&lt;vwscir88@hotmail.com&gt;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; To: &lt;onesixv@juno.com&gt;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Cc: &lt;farrenator@yahoo.com&gt;; =
&lt;scirocco-l@scirocco.org&gt;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 6:44 PM</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Subject: Re: ebay scam</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; don't get me wrong, i would never recommend =
or buy&nbsp; or sell </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; a &quot;euro&quot; exhaust </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; cam. i'm just saying that if you read the =
text of his auction, and </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; knowing/dealt with steffan before, his =
intentions are not </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; to rip anyone off.</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt;From: Eric L Ellis =
&lt;onesixv@juno.com&gt;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt;To: vwscir88@hotmail.com</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt;CC: farrenator@yahoo.com, =
scirocco-l@scirocco.org</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt;Subject: Re: ebay scam</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt;Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:30:17 =
-0400</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt;Yes, he posts quite often...to =
sell.&nbsp; I personally don't </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; care for the</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt;selling of the &quot;Euro Exhaust =
Cam&quot;.&nbsp; Granted, he implies no </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; gains but the</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt;those who don't know, it can appear =
that it's an upgrade.&nbsp; Not to</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt;mention, $40.00 shipping?</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt;EE</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt;&quot;Good, bad...I'm the guy with the =
gun!&quot;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt;<A =
HREF=3D"http://www.geocities.com/blitzkrieg16v";>http://www.geocities.com/=
blitzkrieg16v</A></FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt;AOL IM:&nbsp; OneSixV</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt;<A =
HREF=3D"http://www.geocities.com/onesixv";>http://www.geocities.com/onesix=
v</A></FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt;On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:01:04 -0400 =
&quot;the hitman&quot; </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &lt;vwscir88@hotmail.com&gt;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt;writes:</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; that's steffan. i think you must =
be thinking about </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; someone else, i've</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; had</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; nothing but good dealings with =
steffan. i believe he </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; does post to</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; the list</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; occasionally too.</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;From: Victor Farren =
&lt;farrenator@yahoo.com&gt;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;To: =
scirocco-l@scirocco.org</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Subject: ebay scam</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 =
14:44:41 -0700 (PDT)</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;anyone know who this clown =
is?&nbsp; He is trying to sell a</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;16v Euro 'exhaust' cam.&nbsp; =
Talk about some bull$hit.</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;<A =
HREF=3D"http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item";>ht=
tp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item</A></FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; =3D1842783455</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;This isn't the same clown who =
was ripping people off</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;about 6 months back is =
it?&nbsp; Sorry, but I can't</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;remember his name, but he =
changed his email a couple</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;of times because someone on =
the list was tracking him</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;and giving him $hit for being =
a scam artist.&nbsp; Some of</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;the listers who have been =
around a while might</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;remember.</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Victor</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;</FONT>

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