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Cheapass faster ratio - -point conceded



Poor Ron,
You send mail and others throw science at you.....
Me?
I get offers of submission....

(Now where did I put that whip?)

Julie


>From: Ron Pieper <rapieper@yahoo.com>
>To: Dan Bubb <jdbubb@ix.netcom.com>
>CC: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
>Subject: Re: Cheapass faster ratio - -point conceded
>Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 11:52:08 -0800 (PST)
>
>OK,,,Dan (and others) correct on all points.  Which leads me to say, in
>retrospect, WHAT THE HELL WAS I THINKING.  I know better than this...OK
>OK, the idea was dreamed up in that half-awake, half-asleep,
>pre-shower, pre-coffee time (look at the original header for the time).
>
>Sooo...don't do it.  It's a waste of time.
>
>Dumbass Ron
>
>--- Dan Bubb <jdbubb@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > No, but the stresses in the tierod sure would get huge! With a normal
> > installation where the tie rod is straight the rod only experiences
> > tension
> > or compression. When you put a bend in it, it also gets bending loads
> > (much
> > more stress, much more deflection). The greater the bend, the greater
> > the
> > stress and deflection, the less the wheel is pointing in the
> > direction you
> > want.
> > Straight structures between pivot points are good.
> > Dan
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Ron Pieper <rapieper@yahoo.com>
> > To: <jester@westfailure.net>; Scirocco-Al
> > <scirocco-Al@insight.rr.com>
> > Cc: Ron Pieper <rapieper@yahoo.com>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 9:30 AM
> > Subject: Re: Cheapass faster steering ratio idea??
> >
> >
> > > I have a sneaky feeling Dan is right..but I'm still going to mull
> > it
> > > over.  My old prof said "when in doubt, exaggerate."
> > >
> > > Sooo...if the offset was greater than the distance between the
> > center
> > > or rotation and the tie rod attachment point, and was placed so
> > that
> > > the line of the tie rod was on the other side of the center of
> > > rotation, would the wheel turn the wrong way?
> > >
> > > Hmmm....
> > >
> > >
> > > --- jester@westfailure.net wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 17 Feb 2002, Scirocco-Al wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > You still will have the same effective length between the inner
> > tie
> > > > rod and
> > > > > the connection of the tie rod to the hub carrier.  Unless I'm
> > > > missing
> > > > > something, I think you will end up with the same thing you
> > already
> > > > have.
> > > >
> > > > The more impaortant factor is the angle of the tire rod rather
> > than
> > > > wether
> > > > or not the attachment is offset...
> > > >
> > > > In physics there is something called a force vector, but this
> > would
> > > > show
> > > > that even though the actual point of attachment is further
> > outboard,
> > > > teh
> > > > force will be effectively applied at the point where a straight
> > line
> > > > along> as
> > > > long as the tie rod was pinting at the center of the spindle it
> > > > wouldnt
> > > > matter if it was attached at both ends one end or ???
> > > >
> > > > But i could be wrong on this one, its been a while.
> > > >
> > > > take care,
> > > >
> > > > the rod would intersect the spindle... imagine offsetting it half
> > the
> > > > length of the spindle arm... it would take half the distanec to
> > turn
> > >
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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