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Chris - like I said in the original email, the card came with the P4 VAIO from an ATI employee and was functioning fine (although I wouldn't say perfectly) on WinME...
Could someone define "flashing" the BIOS? I assume it means updating it, but I've never done that before...
In a perfect world, I'd jump out and buy a new card, but I have two ATI cards (btw my 64MB Radeon is a 8500 (not as 7500 as previously stated by my rookie ass)) and my funds need to go to 1) house 2) New Mk1 and associated projects and the computer comes somewhere down the road...actually, I have three cards if you count my 8MB AIW....
The second ATI is a 32MB AIW Radeon that doesn't even have a standard monitor input port - just an S-Vid IN, S-Vid OUT and plug that looks like an HDTV input (do they make adapters for that??)
Somewhere tonight between wrapping presents and dinner, I have to rip the machine apart to get the board model # and chipset#...
Again, thanks for the help - JT
"Chris Z." <sciroccos@attbi.com> wrote:----- Original Message -----
From: "Tyler P."
> And your point is...?
>
Oops, I knew I left something out. I meant to add that I would first check
for any updated drivers and then look for any hardware conflicts that may be
causing this. As for the original poster: Are you positive you have a good
card that will work in a different system?
Chris
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Z. [mailto:sciroccos@attbi.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 3:06 PM
> To: Scirocco
> Subject: Re: OT: Need XP Pro Help badly!
>
>
> Well, here comes my $.02. I'm running a geforce 2 mx400 video card with
XP
> Pro and haven't had any problems yet. Also, my chipset is the SIS 645dx.
>
> Chris Z.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tyler P."
> To: "List (E-mail)"
> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 5:46 PM
> Subject: RE: OT: Need XP Pro Help badly!
>
>
> > Who makes your chipset? Agp iplementation relies on the graphics chip
and
> > the motherboard chipset. I've never heard of an nvidia product having
any
> > agp troubles but maybe your chipset is made by SIS? If you have an
intel
> > chipset then I don't know what the prob would be cause Nvidia + Intel is
> > about as compatible as you get.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vince Royer [mailto:vince@performancecarstereo.com]
> > Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 2:33 PM
> > To: Tyler P.; Scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > Subject: RE: OT: Need XP Pro Help badly!
> >
> >
> > I don't know about that one. I have a geforce 2 mx and the only way my
> > computer will run is with hardware acceleration turned all the way off.
I
> > can turn it up to play games, but as soon as I come back to windows I
need
> > to turn it off asap or it will start flashing on and off and having
severe
> > redraw errors. Games seem to work perfectly, although slower than I'd
> > expect (P4 2.0 w/ 512 mg)
> >
> > Anyone ever heard of a problem like that?
> >
> > Vince
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org
> > > [mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Tyler P.
> > > Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 1:55 PM
> > > To: Scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > Subject: RE: OT: Need XP Pro Help badly!
> > >
> > >
> > > >From what I read, the latest ati drivers have been very good.
> > > The problem
> > > is that the 7000 series of cards suck. I've seen some motherboards
need
> > > specific bios updates to work with them. Also they are cheap so it
> would
> > > make much more sense to replace them with a $50 card than replace a
$200
> > > operating system. You could easily find a geforce 2mx or a ati 9000
> (same
> > > core as 8500) for 50 - 70 bucks. However, I would flash you system
> bios,
> > > turn on agp 1x mode, and boot into safe mode and uninstall the
> > > drivers that
> > > you put on.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: calimus@techography.net [mailto:calimus@techography.net]
> > > Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 2:04 PM
> > > To: Scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > Subject: RE: OT: Need XP Pro Help badly!
> > >
> > >
> > > Jeff,
> > >
> > > Ok, here is the bad news. ATI Radeon cards and WinXP do not play
> together
> > > at all. There is an Experimental driver floating out on the net
> > > somewhere,
> > > I used it once and it worked. Figuring that ATI would get their
> > > collective
> > > asses in gear and fix this problem, I didn't keep a copy of the
> > > driver which
> > > is way out of my Geek Charactor.
> > >
> > > So basicly, unless you can find the experimental driver that used to
be
> > > offered right from ATI's site, you are basicly screwed. I would
> > > reccomend 2
> > > things to solve your problem.
> > >
> > > 1. You want to keep the ATI card, dump Xp and use Win2k, it's that
> simple.
> > > All Xp is, is Win2K with a Tonka Toy interface anyway. Sure
> > > there are a few
> > > neat features, but nothing that would make me switch.
> > >
> > > 2. Dump the ATI card and go pick-up a Nvidia GeForce 4 440 Ti or
> > > better. I
> > > can tell you now that you won't dislike the Nvidia cards and they
> > > have a bit
> > > better hardware support for OpenGL anyway.
> > >
> > > If there are any other questions you have, I'd be more then happy
> > > to try and
> > > answer them. Oh, before I forget, rather then blow the whole
> > > drive away to
> > > get the ATI vid card settings out, Do this, is works, boot into safe
> mode
> > > and remove the card from the device manager. This will save you some
> time
> > > if you dump the card and keep XP.
> > >
> > > William
> > >
> > >
> > > At 03:43 PM 12/22/02 -0800, Jeff Toomasson wrote:
> > >
> > > >I've been trying to load up the drivers for my video card (ATI Radeon
> > > >7500) after wiping the HD clean loading up XP Pro and it hangs during
> > > >restart while it's supposedly running "system testing" (according to
> the
> > > >ATI install program). The XP Pro logo comes on and the little status
> > > >indicator freezes on its third pass.
> > > >
> > > >I've tried going through ATI's tech support but not really finding
> > > >anything there. I haven't tried MSN yet, but that's my next stop
> > > >
> > > >The card came with the PC when I got it from the guy who bought my
M3.
> > > >He's actually a tech there and this card could be a beta (could
explain
> > > >why the device manager cannot ID it.)
> > > >
> > > >Another kick in the stomach is that he also gave me an AIW 32MB
> > > card but I
> > > >just noticed that it doesn't have the normal 16-pin interface port
that
> > > >older cards have so I can't test it with that one...
> > > >
> > > >I'm running a Sony VAIO 1.3GHz P4 with 256MB RAM so there
> > > shouldn't be any
> > > >problems there.
> > > >
> > > >Any help would be greatly appreciated!
> > > >
> > > >Thanks, Jeff
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<P>Chris - like I said in the original email, the card came with the P4 VAIO from an ATI employee and was functioning fine (although I wouldn't say perfectly) on WinME...
<P>Could someone define "flashing" the BIOS? I assume it means updating it, but I've never done that before...
<P>In a perfect world, I'd jump out and buy a new card, but I have two ATI cards (btw my 64MB Radeon is a 8500 (not as 7500 as previously stated by my rookie ass)) and my funds need to go to 1) house 2) New Mk1 and associated projects and the computer comes somewhere down the road...actually, I have three cards if you count my 8MB AIW....
<P>The second ATI is a 32MB AIW Radeon that doesn't even have a standard monitor input port - just an S-Vid IN, S-Vid OUT and plug that looks like an HDTV input (do they make adapters for that??)
<P>Somewhere tonight between wrapping presents and dinner, I have to rip the machine apart to get the board model # and chipset#...
<P>Again, thanks for the help - JT
<P> <B><I>"Chris Z." <sciroccos@attbi.com></I></B> wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">----- Original Message -----<BR>From: "Tyler P." <TY@FESTF.ORG><BR>> And your point is...?<BR>><BR><BR>Oops, I knew I left something out. I meant to add that I would first check<BR>for any updated drivers and then look for any hardware conflicts that may be<BR>causing this. As for the original poster: Are you positive you have a good<BR>card that will work in a different system?<BR><BR>Chris<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> From: Chris Z. [mailto:sciroccos@attbi.com]<BR>> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 3:06 PM<BR>> To: Scirocco<BR>> Subject: Re: OT: Need XP Pro Help badly!<BR>><BR>><BR>> Well, here comes my $.02. I'm running a geforce 2 mx400 video card with<BR>XP<BR>> Pro and haven't had any problems yet. Also, my chipset is the SIS 645dx.<BR>><BR>> Chris Z.<BR>><BR>> ----- Original Message -----<BR>> From: "Tyler P." <TY@FESTF.ORG><BR>> To: "List (E-mail)" <SCIROCCO-L@SCIROCCO.ORG><BR>> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 5:46 PM<BR>> Subject: RE: OT: Need XP Pro Help badly!<BR>><BR>><BR>> > Who makes your chipset? Agp iplementation relies on the graphics chip<BR>and<BR>> > the motherboard chipset. I've never heard of an nvidia product having<BR>any<BR>> > agp troubles but maybe your chipset is made by SIS? If you have an<BR>intel<BR>> > chipset then I don't know what the prob would be cause Nvidia + Intel is<BR>> > about as compatible as you get.<BR>> ><BR>> > -----Original Message-----<BR>> > From: Vince Royer [mailto:vince@performancecarstereo.com]<BR>> > Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 2:33 PM<BR>> > To: Tyler P.; Scirocco-l@scirocco.org<BR>> > Subject: RE: OT: Need XP Pro Help badly!<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > I don't know about that one. I have a geforce 2 mx and the only way my<BR>> > computer will run is with hardware acceleration turned all the way off.<BR>I<BR>> > can turn it up to play games, but as soon as I come back to windows I<BR>need<BR>> > to turn it off asap or it will start flashing on and off and having<BR>severe<BR>> > redraw errors. Games seem to work perfectly, although slower than I'd<BR>> > expect (P4 2.0 w/ 512 mg)<BR>> ><BR>> > Anyone ever heard of a problem like that?<BR>> ><BR>> > Vince<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > > -----Original Message-----<BR>> > > From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org<BR>> > > [mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Tyler P.<BR>> > > Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 1:55 PM<BR>> > > To: Scirocco-l@scirocco.org<BR>> > > Subject: RE: OT: Need XP Pro Help badly!<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > >From what I read, the latest ati drivers have been very good.<BR>> > > The problem<BR>> > > is that the 7000 series of cards suck. I've seen some motherboards<BR>need<BR>> > > specific bios updates to work with them. Also they are cheap so it<BR>> would<BR>> > > make much more sense to replace them with a $50 card than replace a<BR>$200<BR>> > > operating system. You could easily find a geforce 2mx or a ati 9000<BR>> (same<BR>> > > core as 8500) for 50 - 70 bucks. However, I would flash you system<BR>> bios,<BR>> > > turn on agp 1x mode, and boot into safe mode and uninstall the<BR>> > > drivers that<BR>> > > you put on.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > -----Original Message-----<BR>> > > From: calimus@techography.net [mailto:calimus@techography.net]<BR>> > > Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 2:04 PM<BR>> > > To: Scirocco-l@scirocco.org<BR>> > > Subject: RE: OT: Need XP Pro Help badly!<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > Jeff,<BR>> > ><BR>> > > Ok, here is the bad news. ATI Radeon cards and WinXP do not play<BR>> together<BR>> > > at all. There is an Experimental driver floating out on the net<BR>> > > somewhere,<BR>> > > I used it once and it worked. Figuring that ATI would get their<BR>> > > collective<BR>> > > asses in gear and fix this problem, I didn't keep a copy of the<BR>> > > driver which<BR>> > > is way out of my Geek Charactor.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > So basicly, unless you can find the experimental driver that used to<BR>be<BR>> > > offered right from ATI's site, you are basicly screwed. I would<BR>> > > reccomend 2<BR>> > > things to solve your problem.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > 1. You want to keep the ATI card, dump Xp and use Win2k, it's that<BR>> simple.<BR>> > > All Xp is, is Win2K with a Tonka Toy interface anyway. Sure<BR>> > > there are a few<BR>> > > neat features, but nothing that would make me switch.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > 2. Dump the ATI card and go pick-up a Nvidia GeForce 4 440 Ti or<BR>> > > better. I<BR>> > > can tell you now that you won't dislike the Nvidia cards and they<BR>> > > have a bit<BR>> > > better hardware support for OpenGL anyway.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > If there are any other questions you have, I'd be more then happy<BR>> > > to try and<BR>> > > answer them. Oh, before I forget, rather then blow the whole<BR>> > > drive away to<BR>> > > get the ATI vid card settings out, Do this, is works, boot into safe<BR>> mode<BR>> > > and remove the card from the device manager. This will save you some<BR>> time<BR>> > > if you dump the card and keep XP.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > William<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > At 03:43 PM 12/22/02 -0800, Jeff Toomasson wrote:<BR>> > ><BR>> > > >I've been trying to load up the drivers for my video card (ATI Radeon<BR>> > > >7500) after wiping the HD clean loading up XP Pro and it hangs during<BR>> > > >restart while it's supposedly running "system testing" (according to<BR>> the<BR>> > > >ATI install program). The XP Pro logo comes on and the little status<BR>> > > >indicator freezes on its third pass.<BR>> > > ><BR>> > > >I've tried going through ATI's tech support but not really finding<BR>> > > >anything there. I haven't tried MSN yet, but that's my next stop<BR>> > > ><BR>> > > >The card came with the PC when I got it from the guy who bought my<BR>M3.<BR>> > > >He's actually a tech there and this card could be a beta (could<BR>explain<BR>> > > >why the device manager cannot ID it.)<BR>> > > ><BR>> > > >Another kick in the stomach is that he also gave me an AIW 32MB<BR>> > > card but I<BR>> > > >just noticed that it doesn't have the normal 16-pin interface port<BR>that<BR>> > > >older cards have so I can't test it with that one...<BR>> > > ><BR>> > > >I'm running a Sony VAIO 1.3GHz P4 with 256MB RAM so there<BR>> > > shouldn't be any<BR>> > > >problems there.<BR>> > > ><BR>> > > >Any help would be greatly appreciated!<BR>> > > ><BR>> > > >Thanks, Jeff<BR><BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Scirocco-l mailing list<BR>Scirocco-l@scirocco.org<BR>http://neubayern.net/mailman/listinfo/scirocco-l</BLOCKQUOTE><p><br><hr size=1>Do you Yahoo!?<br>
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