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16V: Anyone ever swap to the Euro fuel distributor?
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try here
http://www.bildon.com/catalog/
they have new for $229
they may also be a good place to ask what changes are needed
Brian
Ryan H <rhock99@epix.net> wrote:So essentially, all I'd need is the fuel distrib. and a warm-up regulator, right?
Which cars in the junkyard should I look for a warm-up regulator off of?
And again, has anyone done this conversion?
>
> From: "T. Reed"
> Date: 2002/12/05 Thu AM 12:25:43 EST
> To: Ryan H
> Subject: Re: 16V: Anyone ever swap to the Euro fuel distributor?
>
> Haven't done it myself, but as I understand it the only components of the
> fuel system left after the swap are:
>
> air flow plate
> euro fuel distributor
> fuel pump and filter
> fuel lines and injectors
> warmup regulator
> cold start valve (not sure about this, but I think it stays to help with
> starting.. I believe the warmup regulator deals with warmup only)
>
> It eliminates the DPR, ISV, KE-Jetronic ECU, oxygen sensor, coolant temp
> sensor, etc.
>
> Advantages? You get a much more aggressive mixture because there are no
> provisions for leaning it out electronically when you step off the gas or
> your oxygen sensor decides you're too rich. The engine bay gets cleaned up
> a bit since you can take out the whole ke-jetronic harness and the ISV and
> all that crap.
>
> Disadvantages? You will loose some fuel economy, hurt the environment a
> little bit more.. You need to find a warmup regulator at a junkyard off a
> CIS car and fit it to your engine. You can't run a cat or it will clog up
> with carbon. It costs money. You'll have to block off the holes for the
> ISV in your intake boot and cold start valve flange. Tuning your mixture
> will be a bit more of a "by ear" process because there will be no
> electronic feedback to tell you how close you are to stoich. There will be
> no temperature control for the mixture.. so you'll be lean every time
> there is cold weather and rich every time it's hot.
>
> It depends on your driving style as to whether you want to go euro fuel
> system or not.. what would you rather have? a complicated fuel system that
> passes emissions but causes you to lose some performance, or a simple fuel
> system that wastes gas but gives you good power as long as you tune it
> every couple months..
>
> Hmm, I think I know what most people here would say.. but it depends on
> you.
>
> BTW, be sure not to get ripped off and sold a US CIS fuel distributor from
> an 8v. They are not the same as the Euro KR fuel distrbutors!
>
> HTH,
>
> -Toby
>
> On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Ryan H wrote:
>
> > Anyone ever swap to the Euro fuel distributor (CIS-E) and remove
> their
> > O2 sensor / Jetronic system? What are the advantages / disadvantages
> > of such a system?
> > I guess this would do away with the DPR functionality, then?
> >
> >
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<P>try here
<P><A href="http://www.bildon.com/catalog/";>http://www.bildon.com/catalog/</A>
<P>they have new for $229
<P>they may also be a good place to ask what changes are needed
<P>Brian
<P> <B><I>Ryan H <rhock99@epix.net></I></B> wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">So essentially, all I'd need is the fuel distrib. and a warm-up regulator, right?<BR><BR>Which cars in the junkyard should I look for a warm-up regulator off of?<BR><BR>And again, has anyone done this conversion?<BR><BR>> <BR>> From: "T. Reed" <TREED2@U.WASHINGTON.EDU><BR>> Date: 2002/12/05 Thu AM 12:25:43 EST<BR>> To: Ryan H <RHOCK99@EPIX.NET><BR>> Subject: Re: 16V: Anyone ever swap to the Euro fuel distributor?<BR>> <BR>> Haven't done it myself, but as I understand it the only components of the<BR>> fuel system left after the swap are:<BR>> <BR>> air flow plate<BR>> euro fuel distributor<BR>> fuel pump and filter<BR>> fuel lines and injectors<BR>> warmup regulator<BR>> cold start valve (not sure about this, but I think it stays to help with<BR>> starting.. I believe the warmup regulator deals with warmup only)<BR>> <BR>> It eliminates the DPR, ISV, KE-Jetronic ECU, oxygen sensor, coolant temp<BR>> sensor, etc.<BR>> <BR>> Advantages? You get a much more aggressive mixture because there are no<BR>> provisions for leaning it out electronically when you step off the gas or<BR>> your oxygen sensor decides you're too rich. The engine bay gets cleaned up<BR>> a bit since you can take out the whole ke-jetronic harness and the ISV and<BR>> all that crap.<BR>> <BR>> Disadvantages? You will loose some fuel economy, hurt the environment a<BR>> little bit more.. You need to find a warmup regulator at a junkyard off a<BR>> CIS car and fit it to your engine. You can't run a cat or it will clog up<BR>> with carbon. It costs money. You'll have to block off the holes for the<BR>> ISV in your intake boot and cold start valve flange. Tuning your mixture<BR>> will be a bit more of a "by ear" process because there will be no<BR>> electronic feedback to tell you how close you are to stoich. There will be<BR>> no temperature control for the mixture.. so you'll be lean every time<BR>> there is cold weather and rich every time it's hot.<BR>> <BR>> It depends on your driving style as to whether you want to go euro fuel<BR>> system or not.. what would you rather have? a complicated fuel system that<BR>> passes emissions but causes you to lose some performance, or a simple fuel<BR>> system that wastes gas but gives you good power as long as you tune it<BR>> every couple months..<BR>> <BR>> Hmm, I think I know what most people here would say.. but it depends on<BR>> you.<BR>> <BR>> BTW, be sure not to get ripped off and sold a US CIS fuel distributor from<BR>> an 8v. They are not the same as the Euro KR fuel distrbutors!<BR>> <BR>> HTH,<BR>> <BR>> -Toby<BR>> <BR>> On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Ryan H wrote:<BR>> <BR>> > Anyone ever swap to the Euro fuel distributor (CIS-E) and remove<BR>> their<BR>> > O2 sensor / Jetronic system? What are the advantages / disadvantages<BR>> > of such a system?<BR>> > I guess this would do away with the DPR functionality, then?<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > _______________________________________________<BR>> > Scirocco-l mailing list<BR>> > Scirocco-l@scirocco.org<BR>> > http://neubayern.net/mailman/listinfo/scirocco-l<BR>> ><BR>> <BR>> <BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Scirocco-l mailing list<BR>Scirocco-l@scirocco.org<BR>http://neubayern.net/mailman/listinfo/scirocco-l</BLOCKQUOTE>
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