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Re: Badger 5 t-bodies



I dunno how this would work, but how about using a rad from an audi....they
only use up one side of the grille.  probably would be a pain to mount, and
i don't know how tall it is, but just a thought.

Damn, I should have kept that spare one I used to have lying around.

Casey
84 Roc
78 Bunny


----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott F. Williams" <sfwilliams@home.com>
To: "Cheapass Ron" <rapieper@yahoo.com>
Cc: "Lauri Pettai" <lauri.pettai@netexpress.ee>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 8:53 PM
Subject: RE: Badger 5 t-bodies


> -over the tranny... Yeah, that would be much better than over the engine
> itself. It'd still look messy, though and then there's the redirection of
> the air problem. The fender well might work but then that isn't a
> high-pressure area. And it still requires a fairly intensive plumbing
build
> verses just pulling the cold air in from directly in front of the grill
like
> God intended. There is no better place to bring it in!
>
> Mind you, neither of your two ideas are bad in my opinion. Thanks much for
> the ideas, too. You've got me thinkin' here. (Uh oh! Danger!)
>
> :^)
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > [mailto:owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Cheapass Ron
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 3:00 PM
> > To: Scott F. Williams; Cheapass Ron; Lauri Pettai
> > Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > Subject: RE: Badger 5 t-bodies
> >
> >
> > Well, it'd be over the tranny, but farther removed than the factory
> > piece is.
> >
> > My other brainstorm is something behind the front fenderwell...
> >
> > Ron
> >
> >
> > --- "Scott F. Williams" <sfwilliams@home.com> wrote:
> > > Ya, but running the duct from the fresh air area would necessitate
> > > running a
> > > duct over the hot engine. I fear that it would get heat soaked and
> > > negate
> > > the gains. It would also add a goofy-looking apparatus cluttering up
> > > the
> > > engine bay. -not at all important from a racing point of view, but
> > > not quite
> > > what this guy is looking for on the street.
> > >
> > > My two ideas are to install a shorter/wider radiator (i.e. compared
> > > to my 8v
> > > rad. Roughly 16v width but 2" shorter...), or to section the radiator
> > > support to move the stock unit down the same distance. I'm not sure
> > > which is
> > > more work but I'd probably go with the custom rad setup...
> > >
> > > Hmmm...
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> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > > [mailto:owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Cheapass Ron
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 11:24 AM
> > > > To: Lauri Pettai; Scott F. Williams
> > > > Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > > Subject: RE: Badger 5 t-bodies
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone investigated obtaining cold intake air from the fresh
> > > air
> > > > area (by the firewall)?  The intake from the airbox would be ducted
> > > > back to the "tray", a port would be added easily enough, water
> > > drainage
> > > > is already done...if one would want to add some external ducting,
> > > it
> > > > could be in the form of a little scoop over the existing vents in
> > > the
> > > > hood...
> > > >
> > > > Worth considering?
> > > >
> > > > Ron
> > > > --- Lauri Pettai <lauri.pettai@netexpress.ee> wrote:
> > > > > I've been wondering, is there a possibility to rebuild the
> > > > > front end of the Scirocco so that you can unscrew it if you
> > > > > like? Like you can do it with golfs. Then I'd do it so that
> > > > > I'd put the radiator a bit lower to make the room for the
> > > > > cool air intake. Lot of custom building, but it might be
> > > > > worth it?
> > > > >
> > > > > Hood scoop thingie is not going to work as the place where
> > > > > you'd have to put the scoop has actually vacuum in there.
> > > > > So no air is going to go in from there. Only out.
> > > > >
> > > > > Lauri!
> > > > > '84 2.0 16v Scirocco GTX Kamei X1 Bodykit (VIN025736)
> > > > > http://www.eabc.edu.ee/~laurts/scirocco
> > > > > I finally added something new to my site!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > > > > [mailto:owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Scott F.
> > > > > Williams
> > > > > > Sent: 04. september 2001. a. 22:54
> > > > > > To: Lauri Pettai
> > > > > > Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > > > > Subject: RE: Badger 5 t-bodies
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As some may know, I have considered and researched these
> > > throttle
> > > > > bodies for
> > > > > > my own car. I absolutely do not want install a scoop in my
> > > hood.
> > > > > So, I'm
> > > > > > looking into costs for a custom-built rad that is shorter and
> > > wider
> > > > > -thus
> > > > > > allowing cool air to flow in through the grill. Or, perhaps
> > > there
> > > > > is a stock
> > > > > > fitment for another car that'll do the trick. I'll follow up
> > > with
> > > > > some
> > > > > > details later.
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> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > > > > > [mailto:owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of T Berk
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 4:29 PM
> > > > > > > To: Lauri Pettai
> > > > > > > Cc: Victor Farren; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Badger 5 t-bodies
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Lauri Pettai wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ok the manufacturer of the TB's went the easy way and
> > > drilled a
> > > > > > > hole to the
> > > > > > > > 4th runner and tapped the vacuum line there and that's it.
> > > I'm
> > > > > > > a bit afraid
> > > > > > > > to do
> > > > > > > > this as it would make the cyl's to work uneqally and on
> > > racing
> > > > > > > conditions
> > > > > > > > with lot of sudden and strong breaking etc. it could melt
> > > your
> > > > > > > pistons. :(
> > > > > > > > I already worr about my engine as two cylinders get the hot
> > > air
> > > > > > > trough the
> > > > > > > > radiator and two cylinders get the cool air directly from
> > > > > > > grill. And already
> > > > > > > > that's
> > > > > > > > not good. So lots of work to do still. I'm wondering is
> > > there
> > > > > > > any radiators
> > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > are long and not very high so that I could use the upper
> > > part
> > > > > > > of the grill
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > feed cool air to throttlebodies and lower to cool the
> > > water?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The 1st thing I thought was a hood scoop to feed cool outside
> > > > > air. Put a
> > > > > > > screen across it to keep large chunks out and away you go.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Looks cool with those trumpets on there; one of the things I
> > > > > don't like
> > > > > > > about the cross flow motors is the intake runners across the
> > > top
> > > > > of the
> > > > > > > head. Makes later model engines too tall for Sciroccos.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > TBerk
> > > > > > >
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