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RE: Smog Test = GROSS POLLUTER



I guess they did overlook it...Maybe they overlooked other things, too!

Larry  sandiego16V

-----Original Message-----
From: Theron Ross [mailto:ross@sanoh.com.mx]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 1:46 PM
To: Fry, Larry
Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Subject: RE: Smog Test = GROSS POLLUTER


He was supposed to have tested your cap, Larry. It's on the list of tests:
"Fuel Cap Integrity Test". Mine was checked this time and I remember it
being done when I had the car smogged two years ago, so it's not a new thing
they're checking.

--Theron


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fry, Larry [mailto:LEF@chem-tronics.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 1:41 PM
> To: Night Shadow; Ian Overholt
> Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> Subject: RE: Smog Test = GROSS POLLUTER
> 
> 
> You have us there, Eric, CA doesn't look at the gas cap!!!  
> At least, they
> didn't last month when my 'roc was smogged.
> 
> Larry  sandiego16V
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Night Shadow [mailto:soltwede@privateI.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 12:25 PM
> To: Ian Overholt
> Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> Subject: Re: Smog Test = GROSS POLLUTER
> 
> 
> 
> Well than, you guys need to keep your cars nice and warm for 
> those tests.
> Make sure your car has been running for 15-20 min before 
> taking it to a
> testing station.  Cats actually PRODUCE NO2 when they are cold and not
> up to operating temperature.  
> 
> PS---Just checked my last emissions test, you are incorrect 
> sir.  Colorado
> does test for NOx on their rolling dyno tests.  Catless I 
> pass with flying
> colors.  I re-iterate that a properly tuned CIS system can pass even
> the tough dyno tests.
> 
> Last test on my 80 rocco, no cat:
> 
> HC .5858 (limit 4)
> CO 12.8353 (limit 30)
> CO2 286.2526 (no limit it seems)
> NOx 1.0757 (limit 8)
> 
> Those are all in GPM (I assume grams per million?)
> 
> Oh, and they even test the damn gas cap here....California 
> isn't the only
> state with Nazi-like emissions.
> 
> Eric
> 
> On Fri, 19 Oct 2001, Ian Overholt wrote:
> 
> > OK you out-of-cali guys who know more about our smog checks 
> than us!  BFG
> 
> > :)
> > 
> > Remember that a gasoline engine produces three chemicals 
> that contribute
> to 
> > smog.  HC, CO and NOx.  As you tune a car, you can minimize 
> two of these 
> > byproducts at a time while you increase the other.  You can 
> lean the car
> out 
> > to reduce HC and CO, but the NOx will go up.  NOx goes down 
> as the car is 
> > adjusted richer, but HC and CO go up.
> > 
> > Most states DO NOT TEST for NOx.  To my knowledge, 
> California is the only 
> > state currently testing for NOx.  The visual inspection (in 
> other states)
> is 
> > supposed to catch cars that might be putting out too much NOx.
> > 
> > So, bottom line.  In California if you are in an area that 
> requires dyno 
> > smog checks, you have to be below the limit for HC, CO and 
> NOx.  There is
> no 
> > way your car will meet the limit on all three chemicals 
> without a working 
> > catalytic converter.  For those of you in areas where they 
> do not measure 
> > NOx, count your lucky stars because you can pass the test 
> without a cat.
> > 
> > Ian Overholt
> > '88 16v
> > '78 Champagne Edition
> > 
> > 
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