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Re: New cop trick



Not trying to cause any problems here but is Entrapment a violation of some
type of right that we have or what?  If not, how can it be entrapment when
speeders try to be as sneaky or sneakier as cops with radar detectors,
jammers, etc.?  Sounds like we are trying to cripple our policeman even more
than they already are.  The reason why other coutries don't have the crime
rate that we do is because the law enforcement can actually enforce the law
instead of being crippled by so many guidelines that they can't even do
their jobs!!  Bring Caning to the U.S.!!

Dave

> It's called entrapment, and it is illegal in most places. The problem is
> that the Police get away with it most of the time under some BS guise of
> "promoting safety". The only way to promote safety is to be visible. If
they
> are hiding, then IMHO they care nothing about promoting safety - they only
> care about revenue.
>
> I have no problem with giving tickets to speeders. However, I have a
problem
> when it becomes the primary occupation of a "peace-keeping" organization
> simply because it is easy money. I've seen too many officers lately who
> obviously care nothing about safety, fighting crime, or protecting people.
> They selectively choose when they want to issue citations, and then break
> the laws themselves as they drive away.
>
> Just the day before last, I made a run down to the store and was waved by
a
> cop sitting at the end of my block, in the middle of the road, radaring
cars
> on the busier main street. When I came back from the store, he was also
> finishing up with a car he pulled over. As I got into the turn lane to go
> down my street, he flashed past me doing AT LEAST 50-60mph in a 35. No
> lights. No siren. No excuse. He had to slam on the brakes to avoid running
a
> red light.
>
> That's just one example. I also have one from today and another from the
day
> before. I've been given two completely BOGUS tickets in the last six
months,
> one which I fought and won, and the other which I wanted to but couldn't
> because Cincy is too far from Tampa. It really pisses me off and has
ruined
> my trust/respect for the profession. There may be good cops out there, but
I
> haven't seen them and probably wouldn't believe it if I did.
>
> Neal
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > [mailto:owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Dave Ewing
> > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 6:11 PM
> > To: Scirocco List
> > Subject: Re: New cop trick
> >
> >
> > I had heard of some type of rule/law that the cop car had be partially
> > viewable for them to have a radar gun setup.  But, I don't think it is
> > necessary.  What is wrong with a cop in hiding nabbing people
> > for speeding?
> > Whether the car is hid or the guy in the wheel chair has the
> > radar, if your
> > speeding, your wrong!!  Right?  How can someone who is
> > speeding say "well,
> > the cop was wrong because it looked like he was changing his
> > tire".  The cop
> > wasn't breaking the law, you were!!  Hey, if someone hit my
> > wife and kids
> > and even HURT one of them because they were speeding I would
> > have to hunt
> > them down!!  And I wouldn't care WHAT kind of car they were
> > in!!  Just my
> > opinion and I have no tickets!!
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > > sonofabitch!
> > >
> > > where???
> > >
> > > coincidentally, I DID happen to see the county boys over
> > here operating a
> > > sting with a GUY IN A WHEELCHAIR in a driveway holding a
> > radar gun. I
> > > promptly called ALL the rock stations in the area to alert other
> > motorists,
> > > 'cause I thought that was bullshit.
> > >
> > > I'd have been nailed if it weren't for some kewl guy in a
> > Red Jeep that
> > > flashed me the brights before I got there. I went by and
> > waved at the guy
> > in
> > > the chair, he didn't look happy though.
> > >
> > > Dan
> > > '81 Rabbit Sportruck
> > > '87 16v Scirocco
> > > '00 Jetta
> > > Tam-pa, FL
> > > http://home.earthlink.net/~danws69/index.html
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > [mailto:owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Neal Tovsen
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 10:00
> > > To: jlagnese@cybertours.com
> > > Cc: 'Scirocco List'
> > > Subject: RE: New cop trick
> > >
> > >
> > > Yeah, there have even been reports here in FL of troopers
> > pretending to
> > fix
> > > a flat tire while they radar people...
> > >
> > > Neal
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > > [mailto:owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of John Lagnese
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 11:55 PM
> > > > Cc: Scirocco List
> > > > Subject: New cop trick
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I was driving on I95 near the Hampton tolls in NH. There was
> > > > a car on the median strip
> > > > with its trunk open. I got closer and saw that it was a State
> > > > trooper. His trunk being
> > > > hid his lights and the trooper parked in front of him. BE
> > CAREFUL!!!
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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