RE: German Engineering -- From the BMW list. :)

[16V Jason <jason@scirocco.org>]

Oh waaahhh. :)

This was a legitimate post in response to a current discussion comparing 
the quality and reliability of several different German cars, including 
Volkswagens.  In that discussion, it was alleged that Volkswagens are not 
of a comparable quality, reliability, and longevity to that of BMW, 
Mercedes, and Porsche.  The purpose of this post was to prove otherwise... 
i.e. it's a fucking compliment to our cars, so shaddup! :)

:)
Jason


At 05:00 PM 11/2/2001, Fry, Larry wrote:
>Hey, hey, hey....last time I checked this was a Scirocco list.
>
>Larry  sandiego16V
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: 16V Jason [mailto:jason@scirocco.org]
>Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 12:51 PM
>To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
>Subject: German Engineering -- From the BMW list. :)
>
>
>Heh, this is a fun coincidence.  No sooner than I wrote my last post to the
>list on this subject, I check my mail, and in from the BMW list is the
>following e-mail. :)
>
>Enjoy!
>Jason
>
>
>-----------FORWARDED MESSAGE--------------
>
>From: "KKiely" <kkiely@tsmc.com>
>To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com
>Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 11:22:42 -0800
>Subject: RE: [uuc] (uuc) was E36 shimmy, now BMW rant.
>
>Jason,
>Amen to your frustration..... add seat cables that in 16 years are still
>crap.
>Maybe that rumor we heard on the digest about BMW talking with Toyota about
>their valve timing solution is a first step.
>-Kevin
>
>
>From: "Daniels, Jason S" <JDANIELS@amfam.com>
>To: <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com>
>Subject: [uuc] (uuc) was E36 shimmy, now BMW rant.
>
>Amen to that! The crap parts they keep turning out year after year that
>would be easy fixes really is amazing. I love the cars but hate some of the
>same continuos problems that have always been the same for the 12 years I
>have been driving these cars. CHrist, I don't want to drive a Lexus but at
>least they build them so they don't have all these small problems. Maybe BMW
>should get some Japanese engeneers to build the A/C, Power steering pumps,
>some of the suspension components, and electrical systems. It would save
>them a bundle in warranty claims.
>Jason Daniels
>4 new VW's in the family ,still german, no warranty problems, cheaper, and I
>still drive the OLD BMW's.
>
>
>
>From: "Ed Walters" <teamdfle28@go.com>
>To: <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com>
>Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 3:49 PM
>
>
>  > If you can move a front wheel backwards and forwards with your hands, the
>front control arm bushings are shot. It's sad that BMW AG can't put a
>bushing in these cars that lasts more than a couple years. The outer metal
>shell of the E46 front control arm bushing is twice as long as the E30/E36
>bushing and probably has twice as much rubber too. Unfortunately, the
>bushing does not really last any longer in the E46. With 20k miles on my
>2001 E46, I'm getting them replaced under warranty next week.
>  >
>  > The design was adequate in a 2500lb '84 E30 318i with small tires and
>brakes. The bushing doesn't even come close to being adequate on a 3300lb
>E46 with more than twice the HP and lots of tire. I hope the engineer at AG
>who specified the current bushing was sent out immediately for his/her MBA
>before any more damage was done. This kind of engineering leads to other
>horrors such us the under-reinforced E36 rear subframe mounts and the
>magically disapperaing rear suspension.
>  >
>  > Or, perhaps, this is just the Camryization of the ultimate driving
>machine.
>  >
>  > Ed
>  >
>
>
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