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Re: sudden car death (fuel pump, banjo bolt pita)
I took the line off the fuel accumulator last night so that I
could get the fuel pump onto my bench to see what was REALLY
going on. The banjo bolt is still stuck into the piece just to the
other side of fuel line. I think it's a something, something flange I
guess.
It has a hex pattern but I need to buy some sort of tool to get down into
there... Does anyone know of a good tool that would work or does
anyone even know what I'm talking about?
Wagner, Brian wrote:
>
>You are correct that is a banjo bolt, and the peice that that is stuck is a
>one way check valve. It stops reverse fuel flow, that peice is replaceable,
>unfortunately I think it is a stealership part (or it may come with the new
>pump). Autozone has the primary pump for around $99, if you can't get the
>old pice apart then you will definite;y go to the yard or the stealership
>and get a new line (this goes from the pump to the accumulator. Hope this
>helps.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Geordy Rostad
>To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
>Sent: 05/10/2001 9:29 PM
>Subject: Re: sudden car death (fuel pump !@#!)
>
>The plot sickens, I clamped off the hose from the transfer pump
>and pulled the three screws that hold the pump into the black housing
>but it seems that the banjo bolt(I think it's a banjo bolt at least) is
>fused
>to the line. The bolt loosened from the pump but not from the line.
>I finally took some robogrips to the line and the socket to the bolt
>but still, only half a turn or so, then it froze again. What am I doing
>
>wrong?
>
>Geordy Rostad
>'88 jetta 16v
>
>Cheapass Ron wrote:
>
>>My guess here is that you have a faulty main fuel
>>pump...but I have not had one of these go on a CIS-E
>>car, so I'm not the best to tell you whether it's the
>>transfer pump or the main pump. Wish I could help...
>>
>>Ron
>>--- Geordy Rostad <grostad@thresholdnetworks.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>The filter is out and when I jump the relay, no fuel
>>>comes out.
>>>I unplug the main pump and still hear the transfer
>>>pump. What
>>>else should I check, the fuel pump sounds like it's
>>>working when plugged in,
>>>what happened?
>>>
>>>geordy wrote:
>>>
>>>>16v '88 jetta
>>>>
>>>>I was thinking it'd go toward the back just
>>>>
>>>because that looks more
>>>
>>>>correct
>>>>like a bullet in a gun or something. (faster than
>>>>
>>>a speeding
>>>
>>>>honda...more powerful
>>>>than a...)
>>>>
>>>>Eric L Ellis wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>What kind of car? 16v? The seam goes toward the
>>>>>
>>>front.
>>>
>>>>>Eric
>>>>>
>>>>>On Fri, 11 May 2001 00:26:42 -0700 geordy
>>>>><grostad@thresholdnetworks.com>
>>>>>writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I bought a new fuel filter today, no it's not a
>>>>>>
>>>bosch....
>>>
>>>>>>It's a fram, they had it in stock and it was $10
>>>>>>
>>>cheaper than
>>>
>>>>>>the bosch, I hope no one has a problem with
>>>>>>
>>>this!
>>>
>>>>>>Now, my question, are these filters directional
>>>>>>
>>>or is does
>>>
>>>>>>it matter which way I hook it up? Should the
>>>>>>
>>>seam face the
>>>
>>>>>>front or the rear of the car?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cheapass Ron wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Yes, there is a timing mark under the
>>>>>>>
>>>inspection cover
>>>
>>>>>>>on the tranny. there is also a 6 deg mark,
>>>>>>>
>>>which
>>>
>>>>>>>looks like a chisel mark. Just to the left of
>>>>>>>
>>>that,
>>>
>>>>>>>viewed bending over the driver's fender, is a
>>>>>>>
>>>little
>>>
>>>>>>>square protrusion (there's also one to the
>>>>>>>
>>>right, a
>>>
>>>>>>>little farther away - you want the one to the
>>>>>>>
>>>left). Set the engine
>>>
>>>>>>>there...easier to remove the plugs and
>>>>>>>crank from the 19mm pulley bolt on the front
>>>>>>>
>>>end of
>>>
>>>>>>>the crankshaft. Line that squarish mark up to
>>>>>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>>>>indicator on the bottom of the inspection hole
>>>>>>>
>>>(you
>>>
>>>>>>>have to remove the whole green plug, not just
>>>>>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>>>>little clear thing in the middle, good luck).
>>>>>>>
>>>Then
>>>
>>>>>>>check the timing mark on the cam...which should
>>>>>>>
>>>be at
>>>
>>>>>>>12:00 and aligned with the little pointer on
>>>>>>>
>>>the inner
>>>
>>>>>>>cover. That should tell you whether the cam
>>>>>>>
>>>timing is
>>>
>>>>>>>on or off.
>>>>>>>AFA the fuel, easiest way to check is with a
>>>>>>>
>>>gauge and
>>>
>>>>>>>a double-length banjo bolt...but these are not
>>>>>>>
>>>in
>>>
>>>>>>>every garage. I'd guess the next easiest thing
>>>>>>>
>>>to to
>>>
>>>>>>>is remove one injector, preferably all, point
>>>>>>>
>>>it into
>>>
>>>>>>>a jar, jumper the fuel pump relay, and lift the
>>>>>>>airflow sensor plate to make sure all spray
>>>>>>>sufficiently...this procedure is in the
>>>>>>>
>>>Bentley. Cracking loose a
>>>
>>>>>>>fuel line fitting from the filter
>>>>>>>could tell you a little something, or maybe
>>>>>>>
>>>even
>>>
>>>>>>>removing the return line to the tank and
>>>>>>>
>>>checking flow
>>>
>>>>>>>there...that on 2nd though could be valuable
>>>>>>>
>>>because
>>>
>>>>>>>that fuel has already been past the pressure
>>>>>>>regulator.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You do have a fat spark, right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>And BTW, you *do* have the Bentley...or at
>>>>>>>
>>>least a
>>>
>>>>>>>Haynes...right? No shit, the Bentley is super
>>>>>>>valuable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Good luck, let me know how you progress.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ron
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>--- Geordy Rostad
>>>>>>>
>>><grostad@thresholdnetworks.com>
>>>
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Cheapass Ron wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>NOw it's starting to sound like a fuel
>>>>>>>>>
>>>pump...but
>>>
>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>BTDT, right?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Welllll, not exactly, I turn the key, I hear
>>>>>>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>>>>>fuel pump. Aside from that,
>>>>>>>>I crank the motor and I think I still here the
>>>>>>>>
>>>fuel
>>>
>>>>>>>>pump. What is the easy way
>>>>>>>>to check and see if I have actual flow?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Can you set it to TDC and see where the
>>>>>>>>>cam mark lines up? That'll tell you whether
>>>>>>>>>
>>>your
>>>
>>>>>>>>cam
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>timing is off.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You mean the mark on the timing belt gear on
>>>>>>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>>>>>cam?
>>>>>>>>And see if what lines up? Is there a mark
>>>>>>>>
>>>under
>>>
>>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>inspection plug on the trans?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Ron
>>>>>>>>>--- Geordy Rostad
>>>>>>>>>
>>><grostad@thresholdnetworks.com>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Does anyone thing I may have a fuel problem?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>> I
>>>
>>>>>>>>just
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>replace my injector seals btw.
>>>>>>>>>>Could it be a fuel filter? Maybe I went
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>over a
>>>
>>>>>>>>bump
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>and dislodged a grain of muck and clogged
>>>>>>>>>>it? Could the fuel pump shaft separate from
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>pump mechanism so that it sounds like
>>>>>>>>>>it's spraying fuel but actually not...?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>What is
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>the easy method to check fuel flow?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>When I put the new airboot on it almost
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>started
>>>
>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>then died so I don't think it's spark
>>>>>>>>>>or timing. It only does the almost start
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>and
>>>
>>>>>>>>then
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>die thing after having sat for quite a
>>>>>>>>>>while.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Geordy
>>>>>>>>>>'88 jetta 16v
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>geordy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I want to replace the t-belt anyways since
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>I
>>>
>>>>>>>>have
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>absolutely no idea
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>how long it has been on there.
>>>>>>>>>>>BTW, It died when I hit a bump in the road,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>my
>>>
>>=== message truncated ===
>>
>>
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