Re: (non-roc) Stop Napster???

[John Erk <johnny.erk@sympatico.ca>]

Lets close down libraries so that everyone taking out that one copy for free
will actually have to go and buy the book and support the author.
Technology,  and automation change industries.Robotics have stolen jobs from
factory workers and tradesmen.Everyone has to live with the changes and adapt.
Who doesn't have a vcr or tape deck? Every family....How many of those families
go on Napster?The internet also gives tremendous exposure to new unsigned
artists.
Who isn't sick of cd prices? What is the answer?
Jan Folkson wrote:

> This certainly doesn't apply to this list but...
>
> Stealing is stealing, you can try to justify it to yourself however you
> want.
>
> Piracy of music has become a tremendous problem for people trying to make a
> living in the music industry.  As somebody who makes their living in this
> industry I can see the damage that something like napster can cause.  When
> an artist creates an album, their making that album with the intention of
> selling it.  If it sells enough, they can then have the opportunity to make
> another.  Their creating a product to be sold.  Copying it without
> permission is the same as stealing it right out of the record store.
>
> Tape recorders and minidiscs have been controversial since their inception,
> but piracy was taking place on a much smaller scale than on the internet.
> There's nothing wrong with copying something for your own use.  For
> instance, using your own cd collection for making a compilation cd for
> 'driving' is fine.  If you want to share it with a friend, that's getting
> into a grey area.  But once the copying reaches a certain level that it
> adversely affects the sale of an album, you're only hurting the people
> creating the music that you're a fan of in the first place.  If you're a fan
> of somebody's music you should support them by buying their record, not
> stealing from them.  Some artists have embraced the internet and have sold
> or distributed material directly to their fans by bypassing the record
> companies altogether.  That's fine, that's their decision.  But most artists
> are affiliated with a record company because that company can put it's
> muscle behind an artist and get their music properly produced and heard by
> the masses.  That artist then has to recoup all of the money spent creating
> that record with the money that they get from record sales alone.  For
> instance, if a band gets $1 Million to create an album, they don't make ANY
> money on mechanical royalties until that $1M is recouped.  The only one who
> does make any money before that is the person who wrote the song, they get
> paid from performance royalties.  Which is often only one person in a band.
> The rest get NOTHING.  They do however, make money from touring.  But most
> bands tour to support a new record.  If they don't sell enough of their last
> record, there is no new record.  Also Chris, these people don't make enough
> $$ from their position in the media and their radio exposure.  Trust me.
> Again, the ONLY person in the band who makes ANY MONEY from the song being
> played on the radio is the writer of the song.
>
> I'm not a big fan of the way that some huge record companies operate, but
> "copying" music via napster or gnutella or any other means will eventually
> shut down the creative process.  People that spend their time creating,
> producing and practicing will no longer be able to do that because they
> can't survive without making any $$.  I agree that $18 for a CD is a lot of
> money and that the artist doesn't get enough of it.  But stealing it really
> isn't the answer.
>
> I don't really know how this thread appeared on a list like this, but I felt
> obligated to respond.
>
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> > From: "Chris DeLong" <green536@hotmail.com>
> > Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 23:20:06 PDT
> > To: marie@blaze.ca, scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > Subject: Re: (non-roc) Stop Napster???
> >
> >
> > I agree. Why do they make tape recorders or minidiscs? Just because it is
> > easier to do on the internet does that mean that the entire planet should
> > ban any copying device? These people make enough $$ from their position in
> > the media and their radio expose'.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Man, these guys suck.
> >>
> >> Marie
> >>
> >> http://www.stopnapster.com/
> >> << StopNapster--ArtistsProtectingArtists.url >>
> >
> >
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