Re: Fw: 16V heads... (Seattle area shop does 16V P&P for $500)

["Chris DeLong" <green536@hotmail.com>]

<x-flowed>I had Ghent machine in Seattle do mine for 400$. and he said that there was 
no more polishing or porting that could be done. I even asked him to and he 
said nope that all you can do.


>From: "Bradley Peet" <btpeet@effervescent.com>
>To: "Scirocco List (E-mail)" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>Subject: Fw: 16V heads... (Seattle area shop does 16V P&P for $500)
>Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 16:23:14 -0800
>
>I found this on the r.a.m.v.w newsgroup and found it interesting for two
>reasons: 1) a counterpoint to the "dude, you gotta get the 1.8 head" theory
>and 2) there is actually a shop in the Seattle area that does porting and
>polishing for a reasonable cost.
>
>I talked to Steve at Progressive Automotive in Tacoma, WA, today and found
>out they have a flow bench as well!  If they flow bench test it and do a
>good job, $500 is a great price for port & polish on a 16V head.
>
>Bradley
>'86 Scirocco 16V 2.0 "T"
>http://dns.effervescent.com/vw/
>
>art clemens <art.clemens@nashville.com> wrote in message
>news:<381FB5B8.306A@nashville.com>...
> > The 1.8 vs 2.0 head thing is not the big power gain professed.  The
> > valves are the same size.  Yes the 1.8 flows better on the intake port.
> > No one seems to notice the 2.0 outflows the 1.8 on the exhaust side by a
> > greater amount than the difference in intake port flow.  The 1.8 out
> > flows the 2.0 by about 10 cfm on the intake side.  The 2.0 outflows the
> > 1.8 by about 20 cfm on the exhaust side so how can one be so much
> > better?
> > I think your local shop is looking at making a boat payment if they are
> > tellin you different part numbers cost more.  Either head will bolt to
> > either block.  External dimensions are the same.  If you want to port a
> > head the 2.0 will end up better in the end because the slighly smaller
> > ports will give slightly higher  airflow velocities.  For that $700 your
> > local shop wants for a used 1.8 head you could buy a 2.0 head (everyone
> > wants to dump them cheap because of the perceived gain with the 1.8
> > head) and send it off to Progressive Automotive in Tacoma WA and get a
> > stage III port job (OK you might spend a bit more but you will have a
> > damn good head) that will way outperform the 1.8 head.  I might be a bit
> > radical but I would port the 2.0 head and get the cams from Autotech.  I
> > have a 1.8 16V Scirocco and a 2095cc 16V GTI both with 276 cams.  I
> > think you will be very happy with a 2.0, ported head and the cams.
> > Driveability will be good.  Low end tork loss will be negligable and the
> > overall performance will be killer.  The 50mm intake is a great
> > complement but tough to find.
>
>
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Chris DeLong
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