Re: NOLOGY DYNO TEST!

[Jim Buck <vwpride@mixi.net>]

Shawn C. Meze wrote:
> 
> OK, I ragged on the EC mags 16V Nology article and I also went
> onto say that even tho im no journalist, I thought I could have
> done a better article. So I guess its time to put up, or shut up.
> (Im sure most would prefer the later.....)
> 
> The cars used for this dyno run were my 82' Scirocco 8V and Mike
> Potters 87' Golf Gti 16V. Both cars are using stock VW motors.
> Mikes 87 has a Gillet exhaust and a K&N filter and that's it. (He
> runs in E-stock) My Scirocco has intake and exhaust mods but as
> far as mechanics goes, the motor is completely stock. My engine
> has about 110,000 miles on it and the head was completely rebuilt
> along with the engine having been gone through a mild rebuild
> about 15,000 miles ago.
> 
> Mikes car was first on the Dyno. His first run was to be with the
> full Nology system on the car. We both thought that the heat
> (about 90 degrees) would have some factor in the results. We
> guessed maybe 2%-3% less that actual ideal conditions would result.
> Humidity was about 90% so it wasn't a perfect day to do some dyno runs.
> 
> Mikes first dyno run posted a 109.2 hp to the wheels with 107.6
> ft. lbs torque with the Nology system.
> 
> John (Our dyno guy) said that typically, the first runs result
> better numbers because of heat factors. They usually let a car
> sit for 1/2 hour or more before doing the next test just so that the
> heat isn't a major factor in the results. (Usually they're changing
> a component and it takes this long anyway.) We were on a somewhat
> tight time schedule and didn't have the full luxury of waiting
> for it to cool down fully. We removed the Nology system from his
> car and installed a stock set of 16V plug wires and a set of
> Bosch plugs. Then it was time for the second run.
> 
> The second run showed a gain! 111.6hp and 111.5 ft.lbs. tq. Wow,
> we were somewhat shocked. If anything, we expected to see the
> same numbers. W certainly didn't expect to see a gain in power from
> the stock wires. Especially from the 16V. Hmm.
> 
> When Mike bought his Gti, there was a Autotech power module already
> installed in the car. Mike unplugged it and since we were there, the
> car was already on the dyno, we decided to plug it back in and see what
> the little black box would do. We tried a couple settings. (it has
> settings from 1-9.) We tried setting 2 and 7 to see what, if
> any difference there was. Setting 2 showed a result of 112.7 hp
> and 111.9ft.lbs. tq. Not much of a gain really, but a gain
> nonetheless setting 7 showed no gain.
> 
> Well, what a major disappointment that was. We both had discussed
> the Nology wires on the 16V and both agreed that of any car, the
> 16V would probably get the most from the system.
> 
> Now it was time for the Scirocco's Nology dyno test. We loaded it
> up on the Dyno and tested the stock wires first.
> The first run was a pleasant surprise for me, 95.8hp and
> 95.5ft.lbs. tq.! I had always figured that it had about 115hp to
> the crank but these numbers say there is a little more. Cool!
> Next we left the stock wires on and reconnected the coil amp
> only. 96.4hp and 98.8ft.lbs. tq. Ok, the car was still a little
> hot but still, we saw a .5hp gain. Surprising since we expected
> none.
> The last run was with the full nology system on the car. John
> started the car and right away he said, " hey, it feels alot
> better". Meaning the idle and he also had this funny puzzled look on
> his face, as if there might actually be something there in the Nology
> system after all.
> The third run gave us these numbers, 94.6hp and 96.5ft.lbs. tq.
> That's a 2hp loss from the completely stock system.
> 
> After 2-1/2 hours on the dyno, the verdict is in. I have to say
> that both Mike and I were both Nology team players. We both
> believed in the system and both expected to see almost no gain,
> maybe just a tiny little bit, in the system but at the same time,
> didn't expect to see a loss in power either. John told us that
> with the nology systems on both cars, the throttle response was
> sharper and the idle on both cars were both a little smoother.
> Ok, so Mike and I both already agreed on this one so it was nice
> to have a third "nonpartial" opinion confirming it for us. Numbers
> don't lie. It showed a power loss on both the 8V AND the 16V. It proved
> that the gospel we were preaching was wrong. Its good to be educated!
> 
> I have both Graph charts of the dyno runs scanned if anybody
> wants to see them. I was going to put them up on my web page but
> the files are too big. Ask and you will get!
> This concluses the test.
> 
> Shawn Meze, VW Motorsports News, San Diego......
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Way to go Shawn!  Your post said more in one page than most full issues
of EC!  Thanks for sorting through the bullshi* for us.  

Jim
(I'll publish my opinions on the Driver's Edition GTi's autox
capabilities when I get back from Wasserfest.)
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